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    Hey! There's my little green friend! Good one B!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydream Believer View Post
    You are aware that snopes is not an unbiased site aren't you? A simple google search will turn up plenty of sources on that one. Factcheck.org is another one of similar leanings.

    Not saying your above info is wrong but I don't use snopes anymore for that reason. I recall an article from somewhere on Obama's executive orders and how often he's done it to bypass the Congress rather than negotiate with them.
    A comparison of Executive Orders by the last few Presidents:

    Reagan Term 1: 213
    Reagan Term 2: 168

    George H.W. Bush: Term 1: 166

    Bill Clinton Term 1: 200
    Bill Clinton Term 2: 164

    George W. Bush Term 1: 173
    George W. Bush Term 2: 118

    Barack Obama Term 1: 144

    If you go back and look, almost all presidents (William Henry Harrison is the only exception) issued Executive Orders.

    I'm still hearing crickets from my "friend".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydream Believer View Post
    ....

    Not saying your above info is wrong but I don't use snopes anymore for that reason. I recall an article from somewhere on Obama's executive orders and how often he's done it to bypass the Congress rather than negotiate with them.
    If you wish to do some major research on Executive Orders (an interesting topic, in and of itself, in how governance in this country functions), look at:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-r...ecutive-orders

    and

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...cutive-orders/

    Executive Orders are designed to deal mainly with Administrative issues, while Congress deals with Laws. Congress may pass a Law to establish something, but the signing of an Executive Order to instruct a government agency to do that something is how most of the government's work gets authorized and done. Remember this little detail: government agencies and workers may do only those things Which Are Specifically Allowed / Permitted / Authorized. In the private / commercial sector, people and organizations may do whatever they want, so long as it is Not Specifically Forbidden by law or regulation. Knowing which type of entity you are dealing with and knowing how to research the rules that govern it is part of being an informed citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Well, our sheriff, that happens to be our closest neighbor, has our lock code in his files already.
    So does the fire and EMT services, so does the USDA offices and they are all welcome to come in any time they need to.

    Any one other found trespassing WILL be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
    Even little, short legged green men with big eyes and funny hands.
    What? You won't allow family in?!!

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    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    What? You won't allow family in?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
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    "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanuel Kant



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    Quote Originally Posted by clanter View Post
    was looking at the line items of Homeland Security's budget and there was an interesting section regarding horses...

    6 USC Sec. 453c 01/03/2012 (112-90)

    -EXPCITE-
    TITLE 6 - DOMESTIC SECURITY
    CHAPTER 1 - HOMELAND SECURITY ORGANIZATION
    SUBCHAPTER VIII - COORDINATION WITH NON-FEDERAL ENTITIES; INSPECTOR
    GENERAL; UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE; COAST GUARD;
    GENERAL PROVISIONS
    Part H - Miscellaneous Provisions

    -HEAD-
    Sec. 453c. Disposition of equines unfit for service

    -STATUTE-
    None of the funds made available in this or any other Act for
    fiscal year 2012 and thereafter may be used to destroy or put out
    to pasture any horse or other equine belonging to any component or
    agency of the Department of Homeland Security that has become unfit
    for service, unless the trainer or handler is first given the
    option to take possession of the equine through an adoption program
    that has safeguards against slaughter and inhumane treatment.
    Well, I'm glad we've got THAT all cleared up!



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    I'm pretty sure that refers to the CBP horses that are used along the south-western borders.
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    She's whacked. If she has a Federal Firearms License (FFL) She has to allow the BATFE to inspect her "licensed store"...they can't poke around the farm, just the store.

    Sounds nuts.
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    Everyone knows it is best to grow marijuana in with the corn rows.



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    Quote Originally Posted by invinoveritas View Post
    Everyone knows it is best to grow marijuana in with the corn rows.
    I figured Okra...
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    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by invinoveritas View Post
    Everyone knows it is best to grow marijuana in with the corn rows.
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    I got that agriculture census also, and it's quite scary. On the front page it says if you don't send in the completed form by "such and such" date you will keep recieving forms. OMG, I can for see my mailbox being stuffed with forms that I've been ignoring until it overflows, and then my neighbors turn me in for littering, and then the cops show up.

    OP, I believe it is a conspiracy
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    The DHS/ICE/Border Patrol horses are government property, and are protected from simply being disposed of (auctioned or slaughter) without the trainer/rider is allowed to adopt first. They have the same provisions for Military Working Dogs, so they get adopted when possible when they can serve any longer.

    There are a lot of reasons the government can come on your property, and if you get government subsidies, operate certain businesses, have to fulfill food production or other public health regs I want you to be inspected. Things like contaminated food can kill you, and e-coli and Salmonella have killed and sickened a lot of people in recent years. So just wear your tin foil hat when the inspector comes by, and it'll be fine.
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    I needed my tin-foil hat on just to fill out that damn "census." Jeez Louise, the stuff they wanted to know! They get a little personal, if you ask me. Now stop and consider that they probably detail one geek to Google-Earth your place and make sure the head-count's accurate on your survey . . .

    Friend of mine says what's next is a microchip in the back of your neck; with a self-destruct switch for people who won't Play Nice with Big Brother.



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    Quote Originally Posted by invinoveritas View Post
    Everyone knows it is best to grow marijuana in with the corn rows.
    Around here, tomatoes. Some even hang red Christmas tree balls from the plants. And one brilliant druggie used glass ones. The narcs said it was like a field of red spotlights when their 'chopper flew over. Non Compost Mentis.
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    All right, kids, since this thread has a very slim grasp on horse-related from the beginning and has devolved from there, I think it's time to bid it goodnight.

    No, this wasn't a conspiracy.

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