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    Default Rolex YouTube Gem

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgPuXg75ISk

    Can you guys identify all the riders that speak?
    I wonder what year this is from...

    Enjoy!
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    Jimmy
    Kim
    Torrance
    Mike
    Ralph

    need last names?

    hey made note this was back in the day before radio calls by fence judges

    late 1970's can't remember which yr - that was a walk back thru history!
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    Which Kim?
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    Walnes, and the Grey Goose.

    I got a kick out of the remount and the cheers!

    Those kids were tough!
    About the only time losing is more fun than winning is when you're fighting temptation.
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    I have seen the longer version before -- oh how I miss sitting on the stone bleachers watching steeplechase and those old Irish banks. That was my Rolex!



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    Whoa. Old school. My coach was talking about that fall of Karen Stives the other day.

    Was it Mike Plumb in the cowboy hat?


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    Makes me sad hearing Jimmy wax poetic about the test of the long format (which was simply a normal 3 day at that time). It really isn't the same sport anymore is it ?



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    No. In good and bad ways.

    That course was punishing and trappy. And that's how they all were in that era. While our courses went through a spell of being horribly show jumpy, twisty, and all about accuracy, we're starting to see a good upswing toward big, bold, and forward. Courses that reward bold, brave riding. This course didn't reward much more than tons of guts and a lot of stickability.

    The horses don't have to carry extra weight anymore.

    More horse and rider safety.

    It's not the same sport anymore. In some ways it's better. In others, it's not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowbritches View Post
    That course was punishing and trappy. And that's how they all were in that era. While our courses went through a spell of being horribly show jumpy, twisty, and all about accuracy, we're starting to see a good upswing toward big, bold, and forward. Courses that reward bold, brave riding. This course didn't reward much more than tons of guts and a lot of stickability.

    The horses don't have to carry extra weight anymore.

    More horse and rider safety.

    It's not the same sport anymore. In some ways it's better. In others, it's not.
    This.

    I get tired of hearing about how the courses were so much better in the 'old days', because the more older videos I watch, the more I'm convinced they weren't. Agreed, we veered too much into twisty, but YB is right, the courses are opening up now.

    That course required guts and luck, and perhaps some Saddle-Tite and a change of underwear. The horses were often going off the seat of their pants, and legs got left everywhere on half strides that occurred at fences with gaping holes in which their legs could get stuck. I prefer a course that the horse learns from, or gets confidence from. Those old school courses are much better for breaking down a horse's confidence, and very few (even the exalted pairs) got through those combinations smoothly.

    Although Kim Walnes on the Gray Goose through that shadowy turning complex was absolutely lovely. As well as her big pat on the way out.

    The long format was great. The course design was not.


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    I agree with you both and don't wish it to turn into another tiresome debate. The improvements are obvious, but still can't help but feel nostalgic for a time that I missed, and only ever read about in books. Watching the video made me actually FEEL what the 'old timers' have been talking about.

    But anyways... some pretty great riding to watch regardles of era !



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    Great video, thanks for sharing! I was amazed at how poorly the water jump rode, I think I prefer the water complexes of today!
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    All I'm getting is a message that says "this video must be purchased to be viewed."



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    Was the little skinny guy with the glasses Ralph Hill?

    Looking back in time, it was a lot hairier then than now. Mike Plumb looked virtually glued to the saddle.



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    I now have PTSD from watching the one bay (no sound on the computer, so I don't hear the names) come out of the secont element of the water and slip both back and front legs out completely. Just. Gah.
    Thoroughbreds: classic

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    I'm certainly not saying the courses were better -- in the late 80's, I sat and watched one fence flip 3 horses in a row. 2 riders walked away, the 3rd rode the ambulance.

    I'm just saying the format was better -- I miss watching riders trot out on Phase A in the morning fog along the KHP fenceline. :-)



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