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    Default Equine derived products???

    This is a new one.

    http://www.toxinology.com/generic_st...stonefish.html

    The use of adrenaline as pre-treatment when using antivenoms is still being debated. The risk of anaphylaxis varies from antivenom to antivenom. People who have had previous exposure to equine derived products may be at greater risk. It is recommended that the Product Information be read before use and if necessary contact be made with a specialist in the field.

    Why do they use horse serum for creating the antivenom?
    Wouldn't it give a cow or steer a job?
    Why horses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5 View Post
    This is a new one.

    http://www.toxinology.com/generic_st...stonefish.html

    The use of adrenaline as pre-treatment when using antivenoms is still being debated. The risk of anaphylaxis varies from antivenom to antivenom. People who have had previous exposure to equine derived products may be at greater risk. It is recommended that the Product Information be read before use and if necessary contact be made with a specialist in the field.

    Why do they use horse serum for creating the antivenom?
    Wouldn't it give a cow or steer a job?
    Why horses?
    why not horses?

    it does not hurt them.

    However, it seems to be a logical choice, assuming the MASH research was correct as they wrote the plot for when the unit has to vaccinate a bunch of kids who all react to the shots:
    The vaccines are derived from horses, and since they ate horse, they reacted to the shots.

    Now, horse is a seldom seen feature on our plates, why not use it to make vaccines.

    Of course, since it was a TV show....it could be total bogus.

    I think cows have been used as well, or sheep.

    but there is not much of a 'job' to it.
    Some time in the past i saw an article of an East German farm (dates that, right!) who used the heard of Haflingers to produce serums. Not quiet sure what the herd was used for primarily, I am thinking mare's milk....every so often they drew a pint or so of blood.
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    Interesting video on making anti-venom in Mexico, using horses.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ARFXkjAyo

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...ng-out#slide-1

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    Horses are most commonly chosen as the animals to create antibodies because they thrive in many environments worldwide, have a large body mass, get along with each other and are forgiving. "When they see you coming at them with a needle two to three times, they don't attack you," Boyer says. "They're friendly animals with big veins and they have long lives." Goats and sheep can work well, too. People have also used donkeys, rabbits, cats, chickens, camels, rodents and even sharks. "Sharks make nice antibodies," Boyer says, "but obviously aren't easy to work with."
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    "Sharks make nice antibodies," Boyer says, "but obviously aren't easy to work with."

    But it might make for nice PR after the movie 'Jaws'
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    Thumbs up jmho!

    Not sure your point here....is it that humans should use OTHER animals for medicines? We use horses for hormone replacement therapy I'm sure you know....chickens for vaccines....frogs or insects for meds etc. I don't see where horses blood in this case is problematic. There are lots of animal blood donors at medical centers. The local animal hospital even maintains a herd for just that use.
    So why not horses for medicines? Of course I'd prefer we take good care of them and see to their welfare in response. Ditto for all species as we can. JMHO!!



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    It doesn't hurt the horse -- as long as they are kept humanely. I do love the shark quote, LOL.



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