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    Romney said it in one of the debates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noms View Post
    No it was NOT Romney,,, it was Obamas Stump,

    Binders ,BiG Bird, etc


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    Quote Originally Posted by hosspuller View Post
    So much for civility ...
    Charity is different than gov't redistribution.
    I object to tele relay since technology has advanced that tele relay has to advertise its services. Texting has surpassed the spoken word it seems. Charity fills a need. Gov't redistribution programs empower and propagates itself.
    Oh, yes, taxes and entitlement. You might want to give back your SS payments which I think I must be contributing to...


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    Hell I thought we were in 2012 last year not 1912. Cheers to 2013!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
    Romney said it in one of the debates.
    Romney discussed "binders of women" that he may have considered hiring. Big bird was also Romney, do you not watch the debates Noms ? being informed is everyone's job as a voter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hosspuller View Post
    Texting has surpassed the spoken word it seems.
    Hosspuller, the relay service helps deaf people communicate with emergency services. They don't use texting for that. The emergency services don't have dedicated cell phones to get texts from the public.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
    Romney said it in one of the debates.
    yes he did, this is the quote "I went to a number of women's groups and said, "Can you help us find folks," and they brought us whole binders full of women."


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    Quote Originally Posted by stolen virtue View Post
    Romney discussed "binders of women" that he may have considered hiring. Big bird was also Romney, do you not watch the debates Noms ? being informed is everyone's job as a voter.
    BWAHAHAHA see you guys bought that hook line and sinker,,,, It was OBAMA who made two very benign issues and made them front and center... Otherwise unforgettable points Romney made



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    Quote Originally Posted by Noms View Post
    BWAHAHAHA see you guys bought that hook line and sinker,,,, It was OBAMA who made two very benign issues and made them front and center... Otherwise unforgettable points Romney made
    Mitt Romney said that. Words came out of his mouth.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Noms View Post
    BWAHAHAHA see you guys bought that hook line and sinker,,,, It was OBAMA who made two very benign issues and made them front and center... Otherwise unforgettable points Romney made
    You can keep saying they were benign issues but your man lost the election (at least partially) over them. Makes them not so benign after all, no matter what you say. The proof lies in the tasting of the pudding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye in the Sky View Post
    I am saddened to see so many people I typically respect and enjoy reading opinions from, attacking my belief in a higher power - in my case, the triune God.

    I may have strong convictions of my beliefs, but I would never demean anyone for thinking differently than I do. So far, it appears that saying unkind things about a person's beliefs is just acceptable at large. So very sad. I do not agree with many religious beliefs, but I would never try and belittle a person's beliefs - ever. It's just cruel and unnecessary.
    Thank you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JGHIRETIRE View Post
    Romney said it in one of the debates.
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/17/opinio...men/index.html

    that one?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bristol Bay View Post
    Try setting your broomstick to fly at a lower altitude.



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    Quote Originally Posted by EqTrainer View Post
    You can keep saying they were benign issues but your man lost the election (at least partially) over them. Makes them not so benign after all, no matter what you say. The proof lies in the tasting of the pudding.
    YOU ARE SO RIGHT see how Obama was able to sway the fools thereby proving my favorite saying let me post if for you again:


    The danger to America
    is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man
    like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of an Obama Presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
    President. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama,
    who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the
    fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him
    their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their
    President."


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    Quote Originally Posted by threedogpack View Post
    Hosspuller, the relay service helps deaf people communicate with emergency services. They don't use texting for that. The emergency services don't have dedicated cell phones to get texts from the public.
    From USAtoday


    Half of all calls might be illegitimate

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/...trs-scam_x.htm


    Scam artists prosper by exploiting service for the deaf
    By Nestor Ramos, (Sioux Falls, S.D.) Argus Leader
    The voice on the line is legitimate, the offer a fraud.
    "The person who has called you is deaf or hard of hearing," the operator says, and proceeds to repeat whatever appears on her screen — an order, perhaps, for 150 fuel filters or 200 Bibles.

    The operator works at a relay center, such as Communication Service for the Deaf in Sioux Falls. But, in this case, the person she's speaking for is not deaf. He's sitting at a computer in Nigeria, buying goods and paying for them with a bogus credit card number.

    Bound by federal regulations that established the system for deaf telecommunication in the United States, the operator, who might know it's a fraud, is powerless to stop it.

    And the calls — potentially millions of dollars worth — are on your dime.

    The scam plays on sympathy for the deaf, and on vulnerabilities built into a system to help them communicate.

    It's lucrative and untraceable. The identities of the perpetrators disappear in the Internet haze before the stolen items cross international waters. Another less costly, but irksome abuse: Callers may use federal rules governing the relay system to force operators to read written pornography out loud.

    Fees on interstate long-distance bills fund the relay system.

    Mandated by the Americans with Disabilities Act, Telecommunications Relay Services, or TRS, allow millions of deaf and hard-of-hearing Americans to use freely the country's telephone system by teletypewriter machine — a keyboard connected to a telephone — and video relay services.

    In 2002, the Federal Communications Commission added a requirement for an Internet-based system.

    AT&T, Sprint and MCI are among the companies that offer the service. Firms such as CSD in Sioux Falls, a non-profit agency, contract with them to provide the relay service. Operators serve as intermediaries between deaf people and the hearing world.

    Anyone can gain access to the service, free of charge, making it easy for scam artists to exploit.

    "Most all of this fraud is coming from Internet-based calls," said Rick Norris, a spokesman for CSD. "Very rarely would a person use a text teletype machine to make these calls."

    The majority of the fraudulent calls originate in the African nations of Nigeria or Ghana, he said.

    Half of all calls might be illegitimate

    Because FCC rules do not allow service providers to monitor content, there is no official tally of fraudulent or pornographic calls.

    Rozanne DuBois of the Communications Workers of America — a labor union trying to organize the operators at CSD in Sioux Falls — suggests more than half the calls are not legitimate. The figure is confirmed anecdotally by CSD relay operators, though none would go on the record for fear of losing their jobs.

    Norris said that estimate is high, though he acknowledged that CSD cannot legally keep track of the calls.

    More calls, more money for interstate operators

    Funding for Internet relay service — a total of more than $8 million last month alone — is collected by the National Exchange Carrier Association, or NECA, from any company that provides communications service across state lines. Funding for other interstate relay services, such as video relay and interstate TTY, are collected the same way.

    A company's contribution to the fund is based on a percentage of revenue, said Maripat Brennan, fund administrator for NECA, a non-profit organization. The more calls the relay service puts through — fraudulent or otherwise — the more money they receive from the NECA fund.

    The cost of the scams to consumers is modest, at most a dollar a month. But when the scams succeed, businesses pay plenty.

    No way to report suspicions of fraud

    These scams follow traditional lines, Norris said.

    Vince DiSanto, general manager of Elite Design in Detroit, received a call from the relay service from a would-be customer looking to buy 10,000 T-shirts. "Seemed a little odd to me. And then when they wanted it shipped to Ghana, I got a little suspicious," DiSanto said. "Then it was printers."

    Elite account manager Stogner took an order to be delivered domestically for $10,000 worth of identification card printers, a boon for anyone wanting to print fake IDs. In hours, an anonymous caller told Stogner that his company was being scammed, and that she was the operator who had relayed the call.

    Elite stopped shipment of the printers.

    DiSanto ended up putting the company's number on the relay service's do-not-call list. But now, legitimate deaf users have no way to call Elite.

    Bound by FCC rules to do as callers command

    Brennan said Internet relay providers are seeking ways to stop fraudulent calls before they reach the relay operator — at which point the FCC rules prohibit the call from being disconnected.

    Because CSD is a non-profit organization, any proceeds from relay and other services go to programs, services and events for deaf Americans, a CSD spokesman said. For-profit relay companies and their contractors receive payments for the fraud calls — CSD's relay operation reported more than $45 million in revenue for relay services for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2004 — and seem to lack incentive to stop the calls.

    The only defenses against the scam are public awareness and operators who violate their work rules by alerting businesses they suspect are being ripped off.

    Carol Grace owns 141 Auto Sales in Fenton, Mo. Just as she was negotiating over the relay system with someone who wanted to buy a van, she got a second call on her private line telling her the caller probably was trying to defraud her. It saved her a lot of grief. "I assumed he was deaf," Grace said. "I would have done it."



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    Well Noms you are in it now, part and parcel, with all us fools. At least we are a lively bunch and no matter who you voted for, if you need some ramen and hay we will probably send it to you after C&C vets you out.
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    Hosspuller I'm not going to quote the whole text you put up, but you would be willing to eliminate emergency services for a deaf person?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Noms View Post
    No it was NOT Romney,,, it was Obamas Stump,

    Binders ,BiG Bird, etc
    Romney absolutely did say that he had "binders" of women. He said it during one of the debates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by threedogpack View Post
    Hosspuller I'm not going to quote the whole text you put up, but you would be willing to eliminate emergency services for a deaf person?
    That noise, TDP, Is your bloody head hitting the wall! Ouch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noms View Post
    YOU ARE SO RIGHT see how Obama was able to sway the fools thereby proving my favorite saying let me post if for you again:


    The danger to America
    is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man
    like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of an Obama Presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
    President. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama,
    who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the
    fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him
    their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less
    likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their
    President."
    So we are fools. So glad us "fools" did not vote in the Loone Romney or his great supportor Carl Rove. Gee didn't Rove get the US into that Iraq war based on false information of Iran having "yellow cake" ?? I seem to remember that Iran never had "yellow cake" and the US lost over 2,000 men and women over that lie.

    I think the term "fools" should be used on those that would support the likes of Carl Rove and the GOP. Fool me once and all that. Remember that Noms ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizzle View Post
    Romney absolutely did say that he had "binders" of women. He said it during one of the debates.
    I have to admit... i felt bad for him over that one. It was a pretty harmless oops. But the imagery was priceless. Did you see this?

    http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Durable-...ews/B001B0CTMU
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    Quote Originally Posted by EqTrainer View Post
    Well Noms you are in it now, part and parcel, with all us fools. At least we are a lively bunch and no matter who you voted for, if you need some ramen and hay we will probably send it to you after C&C vets you out.
    Um, no Obama is not my president. Nope no ramen necessary,,, I do very well, very


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