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    Quote Originally Posted by Noms View Post
    Look at the preponderance of donks at the top of that list.....
    Blows your mind doesnt it?? During the election we were told time and again the Koch brothers from Kansas were filthy rich, evil, kitten eating conservative beings. Dang, they are #76 on the list.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SLW View Post
    Oh good grief. Look at this list and then lets talk.
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co.../orgs/list.php
    What does the political party sign mean ? What are the employee's political party ? Why would that have anything to do with corporate interests ? My political party bears ZERO on my corporate employers goals of making the most profit while paying out the least in costs. This list makes no sense and certainly not to the orginal post.



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    Actually Bluey union dues are an open book.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajierene View Post
    I know, right...working around unions on a daily basis - both at work and on a personal level aren't enough!



    I think it is the COTH Writer's Union....



    My point is that one of the arguments for unions is that people who would have otherwise not been able to 'make a living wage' can do so now because of unions - but to what benefit? They are not bettering themselves. They are living in the same high-crime, high-drug neighborhoods, leaving their children at the same risk. The only result is that product that comes from union jobs, as mentioned in my previous post, is product that is the same as non-union prodcut, at twice the price. This is specifically what I see in the port. The auto workers are more spread out.
    Products and services (many union members are in the service business) are a factor of the economy. Union products and services must keep up with market demands. Union contracts are negotiated every couple years based on the current market conditions. The idea that unions produce 'product that is the same as non-union poduct at twice the price" is simply not true.

    Old ideas with no facts are tough to let go.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SLW View Post
    Blows your mind doesnt it?? During the election we were told time and again the Koch brothers from Kansas were filthy rich, evil, kitten eating conservative beings. Dang, they are #76 on the list.
    What is blowing your mind ? More non-facts ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by SLW View Post
    Blows your mind doesnt it?? During the election we were told time and again the Koch brothers from Kansas were filthy rich, evil, kitten eating conservative beings. Dang, they are #76 on the list.
    Actually,,, I am not surprised. My former stomping grounds, definitely filthy rich evil kitten eating conservative (GE) is #37 on the list but a fence, which does surprise me.



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    You people are too funny. Your list is a list of employees political parties ! What a collective group you all are......thinking that employees political parties have anything to do with corporate greed. Is Faux News touting this as a story, or better yet Glenn Beck's university.....Gotta love the academics on Faux News.



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    In a nation whose motto is "In God we Trust", who knew that god was $$$$$$$$$$$$ ?


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    Woof, #2, Gah, Look at the GOP percentage,,,,, 0%



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    Quote Originally Posted by stolen virtue View Post
    You people are too funny. Your list is a list of employees political parties ! What a collective group you all are......thinking that employees political parties have anything to do with corporate greed. Is Faux News touting this as a story, or better yet Glenn Beck's university.....Gotta love the academics on Faux News.
    Didn't you notice how many of those at the top were UNIONS?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Didn't you notice how many of those at the top were UNIONS?
    YES.


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    When Obama took credit for bailing out the auto industry, I about puked in my mouth,,,, he was really saving union jobs (with taxpayer $$) because they already give him 100% of their dues.


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    UAW Wants Romney To Disclose $15 Million Auto Bailout Profit

    BY Laura Matthews | November 01 2012 3:53 PM
    It seems Republican nominee Mitt Romney still cannot shake the demons of the auto industry bailout he supposedly opposed, and a new one looks like it may well haunt him just days before the Presidential election.


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    The biggest auto workers' union and several government and public interest groups say that they have filed an ethics complaint against Romney, alleging “serious conflicts of interest” and calling for the presidential nominee to release information about what they say are millions he made from the industry bailout. At issue are alleged investments the Romneys made in a hedge fund that owned a controlling interest in Delphi Auto, the former GM auto parts division.

    Through the money that the federal government provided to prop up the automakers and their suppliers, Delphi received huge payments -- ultimately $12.9 billion in taxpayer subsidies -- and the hedge fund that the Romneys had invested in received a significant return, according to published reports.



    “(The hedge funds') gains, and the Romneys’, were astronomical — more than 3,000 percent on their investment,” The Nation Magazine said in an investigative article last month.

    The United Automobile Workers, or UAW, announced that it is calling upon the Office of Government Ethics to investigate Romney for alleged noncompliance with the Ethics in Government Act. They also want that authority to force the nominee to either “disclose his investments or divest them.”

    The UAW has been joined by liberal watchdog groups such as Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, People for the American Way and The Social Equity Group, among others in the letter of complaint.

    A union press release stated that the groups believe the former governor of Massachusetts' undisclosed stock holdings pose serious conflicts of interest related to the auto bailout. Because of the bailout, the federal government still owns upwards of 30 percent of General Motors.

    The UAW claims that in his Public Financial Disclosure Report in June, Romney did not reveal gains from the bailout to the Office of Government Ethics. The union argues that this is because Romney “did not disclose the underlying holdings of his private equity and limited partnership funds.”

    “It’s time for Governor Romney to disclose or divest,” UAW president Bob King said in a statement. “While Romney was opposing the rescue of one of the nation’s most important manufacturing sectors, he was building his fortunes with his Delphi investor group, making his fortunes off the misfortunes of others.”

    Democrats have hammered Romney in campaign ads for opposing the bailout and for the 2008 op-ed piece “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”

    An email to the Romney campaign for comment on the UAW complaint received no reply.

    Romney’s alleged $15.3 million in profit from the bailout was reported last month by The Nation. That report also stated that some of the Republican nominee’s Wall Street donors made more than $4 billion from the same bailout.

    According to the article: “It all starts with Delphi Automotive, a former General Motors subsidiary whose auto parts remain essential to GM’s production lines. No bailout of GM — or Chrysler, for that matter — could have been successful without saving Delphi. So, in addition to making massive loans to automakers in 2009, the federal government sent, directly or indirectly, more than $12.9 billion to Delphi — and to the hedge funds that had gained control over it.

    One of the hedge funds profiting from that bailout — $1.28 billion so far — is Elliott Management, directed by 
Paul Singer. According to The Wall Street Journal, Singer has given more to support GOP candidates — $2.3 million — than anyone else on Wall Street this election season. His personal giving is matched by that of his colleagues at Elliott; collectively, they have donated $3.4 million to help elect Republicans this season, while giving only $1,650 to Democrats. And Singer is influential with the GOP presidential candidate; he’s not only an informal adviser but, according to the Journal, his support was critical in helping push Representative Paul Ryan onto the ticket....

    Other GOP presidential hopefuls chased Singer’s endorsement, but Mitt chased Singer with his own checkbook, investing at least $1 million with Elliott through Ann Romney’s blind trust (it could be far more, but the Romneys have declined to disclose exactly how much)."

    http://www.ibtimes.com/uaw-wants-rom...-profit-857660



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    Guess who is not on the list.... "ALEC". huh.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    Didn't you notice how many of those at the top were UNIONS?
    So let me try and piece together the Glenn Beck University argument that you Bluey must be referring to along with Noms:

    Unions are a part of ALEC to support corporations so that unions can help corporations.

    Are you now saying that unions help corporate policies that are being restructured by the politicians ?

    That is funny.

    Unions are a member of this group to support the workers rights. Dues money well spent to help influence the deregulation of corporations and marginalization of the employees. Not being aware of the influence of ALEC would be stupid for unions, being a part of the organization puts members in the know of what political plans are coming out like "right to work" legislation. Do you people really believe that unions should not actively work to support their members ?

    Wow, I am always amazed at the repetitive lack of thought process from some.



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    Quote Originally Posted by stolen virtue View Post
    So let me try and piece together the Glenn Beck University argument that you Bluey must be referring to along with Noms:

    Unions are a part of ALEC to support corporations so that unions can help corporations.

    Are you now saying that unions help corporate policies that are being restructured by the politicians ?

    That is funny.

    Unions are a member of this group to support the workers rights. Dues money well spent to help influence the deregulation of corporations and marginalization of the employees. Not being aware of the influence of ALEC would be stupid for unions, being a part of the organization puts members in the know of what political plans are coming out like "right to work" legislation. Do you people really believe that unions should not actively work to support their members ?

    Wow, I am always amazed at the repetitive lack of thought process from some.
    I don't know what you are listening/reading, but that Glen Beck you mention must be a bit out there, if you are parroting him with all that.

    What I was surprised to see in that list is how much money those unions have been putting out, lobbying politicians, to be at the top of that list.

    We don't hear a peep about that in the news, while they continuously keep talking about companies well below that giving so much money to politicians.
    I would think the news should at least have mentioned that also.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    I don't know what you are listening/reading, but that Glen Beck you mention must be a bit out there, if you are parroting him with all that.

    What I was surprised to see in that list is how much money those unions have been putting out, lobbying politicians, to be at the top of that list.

    We don't hear a peep about that in the news, while they continuously keep talking about companies well below that giving so much money to politicians.
    I would think the news should at least have mentioned that also.
    Are you serious ? Prey tell what the unions are doing in the group ?


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    Bluey, for the love of God, unions lobby for their members. Please explain why that is so difficult to understand ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluey View Post
    I don't know what you are listening/reading, but that Glen Beck you mention must be a bit out there, if you are parroting him with all that.

    What I was surprised to see in that list is how much money those unions have been putting out, lobbying politicians, to be at the top of that list.

    We don't hear a peep about that in the news, while they continuously keep talking about companies well below that giving so much money to politicians.
    I would think the news should at least have mentioned that also.
    That Glen Beck thing was meant to be a dig at you and me.....

    The rest I just could not follow...



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    I find you two so comical. Bluey and Noms, neither of you have answered any questions just stated nothing about some list of companies and unions that have employees that have political parties.

    Really, that is hysterical, you have said nothing and yet you think you have made a point....no one knows what your point could posiibly be.

    Logic is not a strong suit for either of you, but I think the complete lack of a point of any kind is so funny ! Must be the Faux News academics......


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