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    Stop! Stop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EqTrainer View Post
    Stop! Stop!
    Did you not get that this is NOT a spoiler free zone? It is clearly marked in the first post that THERE WILL BE SPOILERS HERE.

    Now either enjoy them or SHOO.

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    I know but I cannot resist. Is this what being a crack addict is like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighFlyinBey++ View Post
    Matthew is squashed by his own car just hours(?) after the baby is born.
    Seriously?? I didn't realize there was a Christmas Special this year until I saw this thread (funny, usually I'm quite up on that) and am, uh, acquiring the episode at the moment, but I knew Matthew was leaving already... Sorry, but one random, tragic death is sad and realistic, but two in that short a period is a bit ridiculous (not impossible, but who watches Downton to be depressed, really?). Have him disappear, leave it open, or at least have something more emotionally fulfilling happen than him being run over by his own car.... ugh.



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    I am pissed. This is bad melodrama, hints of which Downton Abbey already had. I really, really enjoyed the first season, second season was decent (awesome Christmas episode) but this was just the pits. I do not watch Downton Abbey for maudlin, stupid tragedies. And I am most definitely not into the Edith/silly blonde from the other family chronicles that will no doubt fill the fourth season.

    I do watch Downton Abbey for house porn, which this episode delivered, at least, with that gorgeous Scottish house. Other than that it was a pile of trash. Bye Downton Abbey ... we had some good times.



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    Ugh, that sounds silly (Matthew's death). Unless it's a statement about sticking with horses, not automobiles! Nah, even then it's silly. Agree that season 2 hinted at this sort of thing, which is sad because season 1 really created some complex characters and situations to get caught up in. Like Mary and Edith. Yeah, I get that Mary must've been hard to live with, but Edith went and publicly brought disgrace on Mary and the whole family and Mary ... tried to steal Edith's beau. Hardly in the same league of offense in my book. And then Edith made out with a married man, so who was she to judge Mary? At least Mary's partner was not married. But Edith really rose to the occasion when Downton became a hospital. That kind of complexity is what made season 1, and parts of season 2, so riveting.
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    hum I guess I have to go back and watch Season 1 and 2 again. It seems I missed a few things like Edith and a married man?
    I allow myself one episode/night of Season 3.
    I have decided I do not like either Mary or Matthew.
    Thanks again HFB for the link above where all the episodes are accessible. I also bought the dvd for Season 1. Could not resist.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CiegoStar View Post
    I am pissed. This is bad melodrama, hints of which Downton Abbey already had. I really, really enjoyed the first season, second season was decent (awesome Christmas episode) but this was just the pits. .
    I feel the same, except that I think Rose is charming.

    Also, the death scene, apart from the death itself being over dramatic, was over dramatic....really? Blood oozing out of his ear? Because I didn't get the idea from the first shot, where he was CLEARLY dead?

    And really? We needed to spend four minutes on their sappy just-had-a-baby I-love-you speil? Just for him to drive off and die? A less ridiculous thing would have just been for her to have said goodbye in Scotland, and then for him to have crashed on the way back to Downton instead of waiting for the morning train. Their "goodbye" in Scotland was all the ending that they needed, except I guess we get to feel relieved that Matthew saw his baby just once.

    I too hated Matthew and Mary. Sybil and the mother are honestly my favorites, as well as most of the servants. I want to stab Edith in the face....she was not an endearing character right from the beginning, and then she trashed Mary, and then she took up all these dealings with random old men. Blech. I hate her. I hate just thinking about her.

    I found myself leaving this Christmas special playing in the background while I checked my email and whatnot....didn't hold my attention, even though I was waiting for Matthew to die.

    But I was so pleased with the Doctor Who Christmas special that I guess Downton Abbey had a lot to live up to!



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    I am glad the Matthew ended the way he did... kinda guessed it when I saw the truck.( my grt grand father died the same way though he plowed into a horse van) Maybe, though I'm not holding my breath, it will give the writers a chance to rewite Mary's character to make he more likeable.
    I guess Maggie Smith decide not to leave DA this season. Thought I had read somewhere she had planned on it.
    To be "lady like" (though I will never admit to saying I am a Lady) I still want to "slap" Edith into next decade. No make that next century...
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    ^False Impression -- the married guy was that farmer who was saved by having the fluid drawn off his heart, then in season 2 Edith was driving the tractor for him at his farm. His wife saw them together.
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    I remember the fluid drawn (Matthew's mother was the one who suggested the procedure, right?), but I don't remember anything else... Will go back and watch.
    And what Christmas special are you talking about? I am faithfully watching the Season 3 episodes. Should I have watched the Christmas episode before? or is it one of the Season 3 episodes?



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    Quote Originally Posted by FalseImpression View Post
    I remember the fluid drawn (Matthew's mother was the one who suggested the procedure, right?), but I don't remember anything else... Will go back and watch.
    And what Christmas special are you talking about? I am faithfully watching the Season 3 episodes. Should I have watched the Christmas episode before? or is it one of the Season 3 episodes?
    It is meant to go between 3 and 4.



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    Edith's latest beau is also married, though his wife has been committed and, because of her mental state, he can't divorce her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighFlyinBey++ View Post
    Downton has been renewed for a 4th season for sure, and I believe a 5th as well. Five years is an average life cycle for a TV series.
    For the US. For the UK not necessarily.

    I understand why they didn't recast, and I kind of see why they sort of had it...kind of a mess. I suspect the actor threw this at them on rather short notice and they were stuck with either 'ignore it and just make something up in 4/1, recast, or do something NOW, and they figured send him out with a bang.

    I will still take Downton over the new US/DS, because even with characters I dislike on Downton I have never actively wished to see them die as violent a death as possible, ideally on-screen. (In the new US/DS, I was hoping they'd leave Persie in Berlin for the whole war because I was actively looking forward to her finding out what the Soviet Army does to civilian women in occupied territory. THAT is how much I hated her-she created literally the only situation in which I've ever been rooting for the red army.) And I can even understand what was probably the PLANNED decision to off a character, Sybil and subsequently kind of lifting Branson out of Ireland as there is just no way to REALLY sink into that bit of history without things turning ugly for one section or another of the viewing audience.

    And I see not recasting--apparently (I haven't seen the newer ones) they've done that with the lead character of "Midsommer Murders', who's been on the show for something like EIGHTEEN series...that's just crazy at that point.



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    Quote Originally Posted by HighFlyinBey++ View Post
    Edith's latest beau is also married, though his wife has been committed and, because of her mental state, he can't divorce her.
    IOW, it's Jane Eyre if Rochester weren't a sociopath!

    I don't entirely mind Edith (Mary's "lover", which is an interesting mental defence Mary's created for herself as it was, if not rape, coerced, being married is NOT really relevant-she slept with someone not her husband, it's a social disaster if it gets out) as right from the outset she's clearly the 'unfavorite', even with her parents, who are assuming she'll be the maiden aunt caring for her parents in their old age. At times it even seems like her family are actively attempting to scuttle any chance she has for happiness, too-again, series 3 with Sir Anthony. One can only believe their 'good intentions' so far and no farther. And yes, she'll gullible where Patrick/Peter is concerned, but I can't really blame her for that. When you've got an older sister who's a Karma Houdini (up until the latest Christmas Special) and a younger sister who's basically the saint, the rest of your family clearly thinks you're the ugly middle child...

    Speaking of "Patrick", anyone else feel like that was going somewhere other than kicking Edith while she's down and just didn't? I can't decide if that whole tread was meant to go somewhere, or Fellowes was really into his "Titanic" miniseries and felt like he had to shoehorn it in somehow? I almost lean to the latter as I think Harold Lowe got more name checks in one episode of Downton Abbey than he did in James Cameron's three-hour movie. (Yes, he was the only officer to go back into the debris field, because only four were still alive and one was fighting off hypothermia on an overturned boat at the time, the other two were dealing with crowded boats and hysterical passengers and, again, not getting hypothermia.)



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    Quote Originally Posted by HighFlyinBey++ View Post
    Edith's latest beau is also married, though his wife has been committed and, because of her mental state, he can't divorce her.
    Help me out, are you talking about Sir Anthony?



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    Not Sir Anthony. Her boss, Michael Gregson.
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