The Chronicle of the Horse
MagazineNewsHorse SportsHorse CareCOTH StoreVoicesThe Chronicle UntackedDirectoriesMarketplaceDates & Results
 
Page 22 of 26 FirstFirst ... 122021222324 ... LastLast
Results 421 to 440 of 503
  1. #421

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Frizzle View Post
    I think we can all agree that there are good and bad people in every organized religion, as well as good and bad people that are not religious or not a member of an organized religion. Being a member of a certain religion doesn't make you a good person, just as not being a member of that religion does not mean you are a bad person (or need to be "saved").
    .

    I'm not actually convinced that there are good people and bad people...

    I believe we can all be d1cks but that no one is truly "bad" or "evil" Man is so infinitely complex - I mean, how do we know who we would be or what we would be like had we had been born in someone else's shoes??
    “We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
    Kurt Vonnegut, Mother Night



  2. #422
    Join Date
    Jan. 26, 2010
    Posts
    7,431

    Default

    I disagree. I think there ARE bad people. They are sociopaths. They act like normal people and are master mimikers, but they have no moral center or empathy. This discribes a lot of people in the world and how they can do what they do.


    5 members found this post helpful.

  3. #423
    Join Date
    Feb. 5, 2010
    Posts
    2,758

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesy View Post
    I'm not actually convinced that there are good people and bad people...

    I believe we can all be d1cks but that no one is truly "bad" or "evil" Man is so infinitely complex - I mean, how do we know who we would be or what we would be like had we had been born in someone else's shoes??
    True, most of us are a shade of grey (not in the 50 sense, lol, at least most of us) because we are both good and bad. I think there are a few very truly evil people, although I think most mentally ill people are not also"evil" (although my guess is a few of them are). In high school, I took a psych class and we had to go the mental hospital to visit the patients once a month. It was so depressing, especially because each month we went to wards where the patients were increasingly sick. Of course, we didn't go to the criminally insane ward, but the rest were bad enough. Truly a horrifying, eye-opening experience.



  4. #424
    Join Date
    Feb. 5, 2010
    Posts
    2,758

    Default

    I wanted to add that I believe it's part nature and part nurture--the environment you grow up in can have a huge impact on who you are, but some of it is just in our nature no matter what kind of environment we grow up in. Some people had horrible childhoods but turn out ok, and some people are raised in loving homes and turn out to be psychopaths. It's just very complicated.



  5. #425
    Join Date
    Jan. 31, 2003
    Posts
    18,472

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Beentheredonethat View Post
    I disagree. I think there ARE bad people. They are sociopaths. They act like normal people and are master mimikers, but they have no moral center or empathy. This discribes a lot of people in the world and how they can do what they do.
    As you know, I believe this.

    I also feel buddhism gives the most rational explanation for it.
    "Kindness is free" ~ Eurofoal
    ---
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances.


    1 members found this post helpful.

  6. #426
    Join Date
    Sep. 7, 2009
    Location
    Lexington, KY
    Posts
    25,216

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesy View Post
    I'm not actually convinced that there are good people and bad people...

    I believe we can all be d1cks but that no one is truly "bad" or "evil" Man is so infinitely complex - I mean, how do we know who we would be or what we would be like had we had been born in someone else's shoes??
    I suspect sociopaths are technically "bad".
    Join the Clinton 2016 campaign...Hillary For America. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/


    1 members found this post helpful.

  7. #427
    Join Date
    Jan. 26, 2010
    Posts
    7,431

    Default

    Well, I actually have done a lot on this. Technically, even though when you look it up, it says Buddhism is a religion, it's not. It does not believe in some supernatural being that is creator and runner/ruler of the universe, but in a person named Buddha, and people follow his beliefs. Its is a belief system. (I've had those as vocabulary words in my classes for many years and can still almost recite the definitions word for word!)



  8. #428
    Join Date
    Dec. 2, 2009
    Posts
    3,801

    Default

    Sannois, that wasn't EqTrainer, it was EquiBrit.



  9. #429
    Join Date
    Jan. 4, 2007
    Location
    TX
    Posts
    47,155

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OneGrayPony View Post
    Sannois, that wasn't EqTrainer, it was EquiBrit.
    And, remembering the season and time, some spirits of the chemical persuasion may have been involved there?

    That statement seemed completely out of place there.



  10. #430
    Join Date
    Jan. 31, 2003
    Posts
    18,472

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sannois View Post
    But wait Eqtrainer, on the other thread you stated that Religion is a mental defect. Buddism is a religion.

    Sannois... WTF?!!!!

    i never said that.

    You know, this is getting old. WWJD? Think on it, hon.

    One more reason to love my DOG.
    "Kindness is free" ~ Eurofoal
    ---
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances.


    2 members found this post helpful.

  11. #431
    Join Date
    Jan. 31, 2003
    Posts
    18,472

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Beentheredonethat View Post
    Well, I actually have done a lot on this. Technically, even though when you look it up, it says Buddhism is a religion, it's not. It does not believe in some supernatural being that is creator and runner/ruler of the universe, but in a person named Buddha, and people follow his beliefs. Its is a belief system. (I've had those as vocabulary words in my classes for many years and can still almost recite the definitions word for word!)
    You are so right and it explains sociopaths. Goodness knows you and I deserve an explanation, no?
    "Kindness is free" ~ Eurofoal
    ---
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances.



  12. #432
    Join Date
    Sep. 13, 2000
    Location
    Greenville, MI,
    Posts
    12,908

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EqTrainer View Post
    Sannois... WTF?!!!!

    i never said that.

    You know, this is getting old. WWJD? Think on it, hon.

    One more reason to love my DOG.
    OH MY GOSH, so sorry... sorry sorry sorry Eqtrainer.
    Yeesh, I have to pay better attention to screen names. Bad glasses.
    Please forgive me!
    "you can only ride the drama llama so hard before it decides to spit in your face." Caffeinated.



  13. #433
    Join Date
    Jan. 4, 2007
    Location
    TX
    Posts
    47,155

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sannois View Post
    OH MY GOSH, so sorry... sorry sorry sorry Eqtrainer.
    Yeesh, I have to pay better attention to screen names. Bad glasses.
    Please forgive me!
    Don't worry, post enough and all of us have sinned, sooner or later, to our utter embarrassment .

    Get on your knees, say three Glorys and you will be absolved.


    2 members found this post helpful.

  14. #434
    Join Date
    Sep. 11, 2011
    Posts
    1,739

    Default

    Buddhism is not a religion, its a psycology.

    Technically you can be a christian and follow buddhist principles--- they do not clash.

    I know because I am a christian and follow them. Its actually my main source of insights into christianity. Long story....

    Thich Nhat Hanh's Plum Villiage is a wonderful example of this where nuns and monks meditate and pray together.



  15. #435
    Join Date
    Jan. 31, 2003
    Posts
    18,472

    Default

    Sendenhorse, do tell
    "Kindness is free" ~ Eurofoal
    ---
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances.



  16. #436
    Join Date
    Jan. 26, 2010
    Posts
    7,431

    Default

    You know, I thought I would bring this thread back. So much good discussion on many different ideas, and all doe in a respectful way. Isn't that, or shouldn't it be, the point of religions, belief systems, psychologies, whatever? The idea is so that we can help ourselves understand each other and our place in the world and how to cope.

    Isn' t that the crux of it? I know I feel I need to have a place and a responsibility in the world, or it all feels wrong. Don't we all need to feel like we're making a difference? I guess the sociopaths would say no, but I think it's true for everyone else.


    2 members found this post helpful.

  17. #437
    Join Date
    Jun. 27, 2010
    Location
    SE VA
    Posts
    1,252

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Beentheredonethat View Post

    What strikes me about most religious people is they are good people and do good things, and I want to be involved with doing all of that.

    The thing is, being a "good person" and "doing good things" are not going to get you to heaven. However, God does call us in the Bible to be like him, and it makes Him happy to see his children doing good deeds, to show the love of Christ and be a light to others.

    But what struck me about what this pastor was saying was that it's all about God and focusing on God and giving into him and how you just need to let him in to be saved and whatever. If you're that way, fine. But my thoughts kept going back to WHY do you have to keep preaching "look to God/Jesus" to save you and do right?

    The one and only way to be saved, and go to heaven when we die, is to recognize that God has a son named Jesus that he sent to earth to be crucified and die, in place of all mankind. You have to confess with your mouth and believe in your heart. Romans 6:23 says "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.". Romans 10:9 says "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. It is about having faith that God is real, asking Him to forgive your sins, and living your life in a way that pleases Him. "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God", but we still need to do the best we can to "be a light" to those around us. Some people have really bright lights, they have a joy that everyone around them can see and feel. You see those people and you think, wow, i want what they have! That is their faith shining for others to see.

    It seems to trivialize people and what we all (most) know. We know how to care and behave and do right and be good and care. Why do we need to look to something else to do that for us? Are we that immature and unintelligent that we need something in the middle?

    I've studied (inadvertently) a lot of religions, and this is what bugs me about them all. If I were to go the "religious" route, it would be more something like Buddhism, which doesn't focus on some intermediary to worship, but right behavior.

    Do you know what I mean? I'm not trying to start a fight or put anyone down, but it's kind of hard to ask people who truly believe this. WHY do you have to worship Jesus/God, and not just be a good person on your own? I get the community thing, but . . .
    Most people who have accepted Christ into their hearts, have asked forgiveness for their sins, WANT to worship Him. He have us "Only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall have eternal life". Pretty amazing stuff.

    I hope that was helpful.


    1 members found this post helpful.

  18. #438
    Join Date
    Sep. 13, 2000
    Location
    Greenville, MI,
    Posts
    12,908

    Default

    I was wondering what happened to this thread as well.
    "you can only ride the drama llama so hard before it decides to spit in your face." Caffeinated.



  19. #439
    Join Date
    Nov. 2, 2001
    Location
    In Jingle Town
    Posts
    35,184

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mpsbarnmanager View Post
    Most people who have accepted Christ into their hearts, have asked forgiveness for their sins, WANT to worship Him. He have us "Only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall have eternal life". Pretty amazing stuff.

    I hope that was helpful.
    nah, not really.
    Maybe to the OP tho....
    Quote Originally Posted by Bristol Bay View Post
    Try setting your broomstick to fly at a lower altitude.
    GNU Terry Prachett



  20. #440
    Join Date
    Jan. 4, 2007
    Location
    TX
    Posts
    47,155

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    nah, not really.
    Maybe to the OP tho....
    Well, remember the studies that show about 80% of humans seem to have the wiring to be believers.
    I guess those that don't are just left to wonder about all that and hope it doesn't become grounds for discrimination or worse, one more witch hunt of the unbelievers yet again.

    Those in minorities tend to be unease, with good reason.
    Especially when it comes to religions, given their history, that many are still living.



Similar Threads

  1. The Religious Folk that stop by....
    By knightrider in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 114
    Last Post: Apr. 10, 2012, 01:42 AM
  2. Can someone explain the Nook/Kindle thing to me?
    By IntegritySporthorses in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 36
    Last Post: Sep. 6, 2011, 05:18 PM
  3. WTF is wrong with these religious fanatics?
    By TheHorseProblem in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 42
    Last Post: Apr. 3, 2011, 07:48 PM
  4. What are your religious beliefs?
    By Lazy Palomino Hunter in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 91
    Last Post: Apr. 11, 2010, 02:53 AM
  5. Explain this Hunter position thing to me, please.
    By Velvet in forum Hunter/Jumper
    Replies: 130
    Last Post: Feb. 13, 2003, 08:37 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
randomness