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  1. #21
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    Amateurs!

    A seasoned cheater would surely know to use sugar cubes and flour paste. Let's see, where did I put that formula? Oh, here it is:

    (minutes of test x dressage coefficient) / tensile grip strength
    mass of sugar cube in inches squared

    Thereby leaving only dissolved remnants of the devious ploy.
    "Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I said nothing" - Robert Benchley
    Cotton would fight.
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    Skeevy Hack: "Duuuuude! You. Have. Totally. Got. To. Try. This."

    Just-Off-the-Farm Dobbin: :: stares hard :: "What is it?"

    Skeevy Hack: "Dude, it's like hay, but only better. It's grass."

    Just-Off-the-Farm Dobbin: "Wait. I've seen grass before. It never looked like that."

    Skeevy Hack: "Dude, it's just chopped different. A little bit between your cheek and gum, or wrap it around the bit, and you'll be flying around the ring."

    Just-Off-the-Farm Dobbin: :: dubiously :: "I dunno."

    Skeevy Hack: "It's grass, man. Grass. You eat it every day. Everyone eats it every day. Look, you try this one on me. And if you like it, let me know. "
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    ^^^^^
    "Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I said nothing" - Robert Benchley
    Cotton would fight.
    http://buildingthegrove.blogspot.com/


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    You owe me a keyboard!
    "Passion, though a bad regulator, is a powerful spring." -- Emerson
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    OMG. This is awesome!
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickelodian View Post
    We jump horses. Over sticks. For fun.
    Never take life too seriously. Nobody makes it out alive anyway.
    Regulus RDL


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    Excellent! Thank you for this!



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    I want to know did they confiscate the bit and hay ball as evidence? Do any photos exist? Clearly, tying fibrous foodstuffs to the bit is against the spirit of the rules - but feeding a bit of sugar to encourage salivation isn't a shooting offense, and letting a horse graze a bit is a common endurance rider means of getting pulse and respiration down - probably more eventers should try it before dressage... ( )

    I would guess that the right bundle of hay could relax a horse's jaw, could make it harder for a horse to draw his tongue back and possibly put it over the bit, could mute raucous bit chewing and clanking. Interesting!



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    Quote Originally Posted by enjoytheride View Post
    I wonder if I would gain an advantage in dressage if I stuffed my horse's mouth full of cookies before we entered the ring.
    Not sure about that, but I do know that I would be happier in dressage if I stuffed my own mouth full of cookies before we entered the ring.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mugsgame View Post
    My thoughts are you do not try something new like that at a 4* so my guess is that it has been tested before.
    Riders have often used various things in the past. The most common is to offer a mint before going in to try and keep the mouth accepting. The worst I have heard of is using saddle soap to try and stop the teeth grinding. I heard that it bought the horse out in ulcers.
    Before i ride somtimes i give my horse an apple, or mint. Is that bad? Would I get stopped at a competition if i did this?



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    I have almost lost fingers (stupidly) trying to pull long grass/hay out of horses' mouths. I am irritated that they managed to grab a bite, so I'll be damned if they are going to enjoy it....



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    Quote Originally Posted by EnzoDbr9 View Post
    Before i ride somtimes i give my horse an apple, or mint. Is that bad? Would I get stopped at a competition if i did this?
    only if you had the apple attached to dangle from the center of the bit with a string, or the mint stuck around it like a dissolving roller.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeannette, formerly ponygyrl View Post
    and letting a horse graze a bit is a common endurance rider means of getting pulse and respiration down - probably more eventers should try it before dressage... ( )
    Just in the COTH-y interest of disseminating good information across disciplines, that's not actually why Endurance horses get to eat. Eating technically raises pulse (I don't know whether it measurably affects respiration as that's rarely taken anymore). The practical effect may just be that the HR does not lower quite as quickly. Horses whose HRs are already down or close to are generally offered food immediately. Eating while working has other important benefits (ulcers, colic, stamina, blood sugar spikes, attitude/barn sourness etc) and I absolutely think Eventers should take advantage of them. I've talked to Eventers about this before and one person told me she has seen mounted horses grazing while waiting to go XC at bigger events. I'm not sure why it's not more common, or maybe it's becoming so?

    As for the hay ball...that's freaking hilarious. I wish we had a picture and a window into the rider's thoughts at the moment she knew she would be caught ("Oh no! They're going to find the hay ball! Act surprised.")
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    I would want to see a picture. I have let my horse graze with a bit and sometimes the wad that is still attached to the bit afterwards can seem to be knotted on there and difficult to remove.

    Christa



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    Quote Originally Posted by ACMEeventing View Post
    Amateurs!

    A seasoned cheater would surely know to use sugar cubes and flour paste. Let's see, where did I put that formula? Oh, here it is:

    (minutes of test x dressage coefficient) / tensile grip strength
    mass of sugar cube in inches squared

    Thereby leaving only dissolved remnants of the devious ploy.

    Or, just buy GumBits. Lots of excuses why people use them, but we all know why they're *actually* being used.
    Whatever.



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    Quote Originally Posted by HillnDale View Post
    ("Oh no! They're going to find the hay ball! Act surprised.")
    "That's, uh, not mine."
    "Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I said nothing" - Robert Benchley
    Cotton would fight.
    http://buildingthegrove.blogspot.com/


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