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    I cracked up when I went to vote on the poll and saw that your votes are recorded and open for view!! Kind of the exact opposite of the thumbs up/down system.

    Now if the agree/disagree came with an ID, then one could know what names were popping up on a regular basis for/against, that could prove to be veeerrrryy interesting......


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    I think if you're writing 140 characters it's easy to get a thumbs down, but I've had thumbs down posts that I can't think of what they possibly disagreed with...

    I mean, who can possibly dislike a post where someone's husband buys them a horse??

    If someone explained that, then it might open a thought as to something that hasn't been discussed or thought of. A red thumb? Just leaves me scratching my head.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyBlue View Post
    Why not? The times I don't bother adding a post is because it's been an ongoing discussion where the person I've thumbed down is obviously not open to actual discussion but just wants to lecture or complain...or is insisting on perpetuating incorrect notions, etc no matter what reply I've previously given. ... The times I don't add a post to a thumbs down is not because I want to remain anonymous, it's because it's faster and actually more socially polite than adding a second or third post stating, "You're completely ridiculous and thick as brick."

    ... So it's okay to tell people they're fantastic but never okay to tell them they may be wrong or you may disagree with them or think their idea/POV is "bad."

    Would it be better if the ratings were an angel and devil? A yin and yang? An arm and hammer?
    Or maybe a hammer and a sickle?

    Seriously, I think your nuance here is very sensible. I think I will give it a thumbs-up!
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    Catergorically, NO, even with the horrific feelings I have about the CT slaughter in the off topic forum. But then I think emoticons are vulgar, too, although, admittedly, I felt pushed to use one once: I felt awful about it. This is a forum. You're supposed to express yourself in writing.


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    I think I recall Allicat (?) at one point saying something about the thumbs being "knee jerk" reactions. I agree, and dislike them for exactly that reason. It seems to me that we live in a world with far too much "knee jerk" judgmentalism/ unreasoned statements and opinions, etc., without supposed "discussion forums" making their expression even more convenient. The thumbs remind me of their source: ancient Roman circuses used to satisfy the rabble, allowing them to decide whether someone would live or die literally without giving it a thought.

    FWIW, I don't like FB (or Twitter or.....) either. I'm glad such sites have proved useful for political activists, etc., but have found the negatives outweigh the positives for my own purposes online. I was, for example, always annoyed when someone asked that I "like" something-- and never did so. One thing I definitely don't "like" is social pressure.


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    Well expressed, fish.


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    Yes, I use them. I'd still use 'em if my name was attached to it, as well. Most of the red thumbs I give are for 1) outrageous posts that lead to me adding the person to my ignore list or 2) posts for which I don't think writing a lengthy disagreement will make a difference in the user's opinions (usually because several other individuals, far more eloquent than I, have tried and failed). I've received plenty of "bad" thumbs myself. I do think the system has become an outlet for some immature people to get off on inundating an individual or all the posters on a thread with bad ratings, and I do think that it could use some fairly significant tweaking, or removal altogether. But until it changes, I have no problem using them.


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    Very, very rarely. And, NEVER just because I disagree with what a post says, that would be childish. Geez, we're allowed to have differing opinions! I'll only do the "thumbs down" if a post is REALLY mean spirited or making a personal attack and adds nothing to the conversation. If I post something that sounds like that, have at it, thumbs down me .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz 57 View Post

    I've used the red thumb a few times without adding a post in follow up. Most of those times, it was because I knew, either from previous experience with that poster or based on the tone and content of the post, that it would not be worth my time spent crafting a thoughtful and civil disagreement in response. Some people are purposefully inflammatory, sensational, and/or argumentative and that isn't going to produce any sort of valuable discussion.

    Other times, I've red thumbed someone and owned it - explaining why. Like on the disability thread on the last OT day.

    There are some people I'd like to bitch slap into the next county, though they just aren't worth the energy.
    First time I've used a thumb and it was a green one for this ^^^^^.
    Especially love the last sentence. There are a few who nitpick every thing and must have the last word. Simply not worth the time.


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    I don't use them. In my admittedly biased opinion, the incognito thumbs down is for sneaky creepers with not enough spine to own their ideas or those with an agenda to try and passive-aggressively show their snitfit by TDing all the posts of someone they don't like. Also, I agree that it does not add to debate, conversation, or open communication.

    I really, really think it would be superfly if the mods outed all the creepers

    Okay, time to watch the ineffectual creepers get to hit thumbs down on this post
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    I mean, virtually all of these ratings come from me sharing my thoughts for all to read. It annoys me that I get so many people who don't share their own thoughts but make sure that I log in and see this:
    You have the choice to ignore, just like everyone else. P.S. I gave you thumbs down and no, I don't always feel up to arguing with your ignorance.
    I don't always feel up to arguing with your ignorance


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canaqua View Post
    Very, very rarely. And, NEVER just because I disagree with what a post says, that would be childish. Geez, we're allowed to have differing opinions! I'll only do the "thumbs down" if a post is REALLY mean spirited or making a personal attack and adds nothing to the conversation. If I post something that sounds like that, have at it, thumbs down me .
    I must have been mean here...someone thumbs downed it!! Well, I asked for it .


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    Another board I'm on uses "applaud/smite" and lists your "karma" under your username as a total score of positive/negative ratings. (My karma's 9. I have no idea how the hell that happened...)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Isabeau Z Solace View Post
    When they proposed the 'thumbs up' I was thinking along the lines of FB. And I think it is overall PRODUCTIVE to tell people when they are, basically, doing a good job/you agree/appreciate, etc.

    I don't think there is much point to the 'thumbs down.' It basically amounts to anonymous bullying. It does not foster anything useful, positive, or community building. It's basically saying "5 out of 10 anonymous people who have never met you think you suck."

    Overall, it is only a force for negativity. I
    How is letting someone know that their post is disagreed with in a non agressive manner bullying?
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    I haven't read all the posts here - I just skipped down to answer the OP's question. First of all - the thumbs up or down doesn't say "agree" (disagree) or "good" (bad). It asks if you "appreciate" (or don't appreciate) the post. I have not responded to any of the OP's posts, but recently I have given some "thumbs up" and "thumbs down".
    I have some issues with my laptop and I'm a painfully slow keyboard operator so I find it much easier to give a thumbs up to a post rather than use the quote/ comment/post option.
    I will give a thumbs up to a post that I find helpful, interesting, thought-provoking or downright funny.
    I do not give a thumbs down to posts that I disagree with. Folks should be able to agree and disagree on a discussion forum. There is no "one way" to do ANYTHING, and there will be varying opinions on EVERYTHING.
    However, I will (and have)- in the blink of an eye - given a red thumbs down to posts that are hurtful, spiteful, arrogantly penned, or downright nasty. If I read a post that reflects a view that I do not agree with, I will never give a thumbs down unless the tone of the post is what I consider uncivilized. If I disagree with someone to the point that I would like to engage in a discussion or counterpoint, then I will post a response. No one is better than anyone here. I show civility to fellow COTHers and I expect the same from others. Period.


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    I did a statistical analysis of the numbers, primarily of the thumbs down. The results were interesting. I bet I'd get a bunch of thumbs down!


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    Honestly, I don't know why the thumbs up/down thing is such a big deal to people. People don't always agree with everything another person says. And if they would rather thumbs down you instead of posting about how stupid you are and how wrong your opinion is, then what is the big deal? People are just too sensitive sometimes!! This isn't directed at anyone in particular at all, just an observation I've made in general since these like/dislike buttons have popped up.

    Anyway, I rarely use the thumbs down. Only if I find something to be wayyyy opposite of my opinion... or more often if it is totally rude and uncalled for. Otherwise I don't really use the buttons that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charismaryllis View Post
    Another board I'm on uses "applaud/smite" and lists your "karma" under your username as a total score of positive/negative ratings. (My karma's 9. I have no idea how the hell that happened...)
    Okay... that's pretty funny.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CharingHounds View Post
    I haven't read all the posts here - I just skipped down to answer the OP's question. First of all - the thumbs up or down doesn't say "agree" (disagree) or "good" (bad). It asks if you "appreciate" (or don't appreciate) the post.
    Since you can't be bothered to read the thread I will point you toward the pertinent points.

    Quote Originally Posted by AliCat View Post
    I mean, virtually all of these ratings come from me sharing my thoughts for all to read. It annoys me that I get so many people who don't share their own thoughts but make sure that I log in and see this:


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    I don't mind at all when I get a "bad" rating. I think F. Scott Fitzgerald is just one of the many people who have said, "The greatest insult is indifference"


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