Haven't gotten around to clipping yet this year and at this point am waiting until after Xmas. Plan on doing a trace clip. I was thinking I might want to leave the hair a little longer. #10 leaves the hair 1/16 vs. #7 leaves 3/16. He is not in superheavy work but he has quite a long, thick coat (for a tb especially!). I figure if it looks bad I can always redo it with t-84s. Anybody tried this? Is there a reason this is a bad idea?