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    Quote Originally Posted by trubandloki View Post
    I get it for the I beam but not the shoe. Is the web the thickness that makes a pony taller? or is it the width of the font of this U?
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    Quote Originally Posted by axl View Post
    I get it for the I beam but not the shoe. Is the web the thickness that makes a pony taller? or is it the width of the font of this U?
    It is the transverse width of the "branch" of the shoe (from inside to outside) or the width of the straight bar stock that would be bent into a horseshoe.

    The height (what would make the pony taller) is the "thickness" of the "web."



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    Thanks, that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
    Tom, I, as well as others on this board I'm sure, truly value that you are a knowledgeable farrier and are quite helpful here on COTH. It's fine to disagree with someone, and post facts to back up your knowledge and the truth, but is it possible to do without the snarky, sarcastic attitude? I know its annoying when people post non-facts or are not knowledgeable, but you can set the record straight without the "extras" that you throw in for digs.
    I agree. I enjoy learning as much as I can from my own farrier and those on this board, but more often than not close the thread because of the sniping and sarcasm. We get it - you are a professional farrier. You know more than we do about shoes and feet. But if you don't want to help the rest of us learn, feel free to not respond.

    I suspect that in real life you are not like this with your clients. I know my farrier would be fired if he was as condescending to my ignorance. Luckily he wants me to learn, and not just be impressed that he's more knowledgeable then I am about these things. (Which, is obvious already since I am paying him to provide this service.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by axl View Post
    Thanks, that makes sense.
    I'm trying to figure out how in the diagram I posted the lateral branch is relegated to social democracy fascism and socialism whilst the medial branch is considered republican toward libertarian on a shoe that is to be nailed on the off side of a horse, thus putting the left wing on the right side and the right wing on the left when the shoe is placed in service. Totally weird. No?



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    Yes, I suspect the designer of the diagram thinks that shoe would be on the other foot. Or s/he is waiting to see if anyone picked up on that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by S1969 View Post
    I agree. I enjoy learning as much as I can from my own farrier and those on this board, but more often than not close the thread because of the sniping and sarcasm. We get it - you are a professional farrier. You know more than we do about shoes and feet. But if you don't want to help the rest of us learn, feel free to not respond.. .
    Your conclusions are not supported by fact.

    These are the facts supported by the actual content posted in this thread;

    If you actually read the very first reply to the OP in this thread, the answer was quite accurate and informative. It was the OP that got snarky and the proceeded to dismiss the answer by inferring that it was not factual and instead lending deference to an incorrect answer given by a non-farrier, and also objecting to being questioned why she had not asked her attending farrier the question.

    The non-farrier insisted and persisted with the incorrect information until challenged to authenticate his or her assertions with scientific explanation. And you would encourage that this sort of pretentiousness be rewarded? Because as long as such behavior is tolerated, it is rewarded. Don't feed cookies to a horse that bites.


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    Quote Originally Posted by axl View Post
    Yes, I suspect the designer of the diagram thinks that shoe would be on the other foot. Or s/he is waiting to see if anyone picked up on that!
    Perhaps it is by design in an effort to create world peace by having the parties trade places to gain a new perspective.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bloomer View Post
    Your conclusions are not supported by fact.

    These are the facts supported by the actual content posted in this thread;

    If you actually read the very first reply to the OP in this thread, the answer was quite accurate and informative. It was the OP that got snarky and the proceeded to dismiss the answer by inferring that it was not factual and instead lending deference to an incorrect answer given by a non-farrier, and also objecting to being questioned why she had not asked her attending farrier the question.

    The non-farrier insisted and persisted with the incorrect information until challenged to authenticate his or her assertions with scientific explanation. And you would encourage that this sort of pretentiousness be rewarded? Because as long as such behavior is tolerated, it is rewarded. Don't feed cookies to a horse that bites.
    If any of your other posts were different than this, I might assume that somehow you were provoked into being snarky here. But since they pretty much all sound like this, it's hard to feel that way. There are many ways to contradict or correct someone who is wrong, or who just has a different opinion without being mean and condescending.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bloomer View Post
    Hackers don't have customers, they have targets and victims. This site is a target of opportunity for such anonymous predators. They feed on the unwary.
    BRAVO ZULU* Mr. Bloomer.

    Keep being like the umpire and "call 'em like you see 'em."

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    *That's "flag talk" for WELL DONE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S1969 View Post
    If any of your other posts were different than this, I might assume that somehow you were provoked into being snarky here. But since they pretty much all sound like this, it's hard to feel that way.
    Perhaps if you were to try harder........

    There are many ways to contradict or correct someone who is wrong, or who just has a different opinion without being mean and condescending.
    Different strokes for different folks.........

    It is my observation that like me, Bro. Tom doesn't suffer fools and idiocy well if at all and that is reflected in how he treats with those who expose their soft underbelly of ignorance and stupidity by opining on matters beyond their expertise and usually, their ken. If such miscreants want to bring a knife to a gun fight, they do so at their own peril.
    Engaging with them becomes sport. If, along the way, others benefit from the repartee, so much the better. If not, c'est la vie, c'est la guerre.


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    Quote Originally Posted by retrofit View Post
    I recently switched farriers. The new farrier used shoes that are narrower than what had previously been on my horse. Why would a farrier choose wider vs narrower shoes? What are the effects for the horse?

    It has always been my understanding that a farrier should "fit the shoe to the natural ( God given) shape of the foot" not the other way around? If my farrier tried to put the same shoes on my mare that he put on my mule, I would have one very lame mare. Am I wrong?



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    These here are some wide shoes:

    http://www.grandcircuitinc.com/catal...shoes-aluminum

    These here are some narrow shoes:

    http://www.farriersdepot.com/stcroixpolofront.aspx

    Relatively speaking, of course.



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    Quote Originally Posted by S1969 View Post
    If any of your other posts were different than this, I might assume that somehow you were provoked into being snarky here. But since they pretty much all sound like this, it's hard to feel that way. There are many ways to contradict or correct someone who is wrong, or who just has a different opinion without being mean and condescending.
    I'm not the one telling lies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by candyappy View Post
    It has always been my understanding that a farrier should "fit the shoe to the natural ( God given) shape of the foot" not the other way around? If my farrier tried to put the same shoes on my mare that he put on my mule, I would have one very lame mare. Am I wrong?
    You are absolutely right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTheNines View Post
    I for one appreciate Tom Bloomer's input, and that of the other farriers who post here. I do not care if he is "nice", just laugh it off.

    I am so tired of all the whining about "customer service" on this board. Since when did "customer service" become more equated with hand-holding and kowtowing to every individual's immediate little needs, and less with plain old fashioned expertise?
    Fine, I'll un-southern myself for a few seconds and say what I really meant. Tom Bloomer, stop being a horse's ass. Just tell us what you know and correct what's wrong, and quit being so nasty about it. I can't read your posts trying to fish for information through all the insults, and so please take the advice of the OP and put a sock in it when you have those moments. Is that better?
    send some of their smart literate deer who can read road signs up here since ours are just run of the mill dumb ones who get splatted all over creation because they won't stay in the woods


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    Bro. Tom, I [humbly] suggest the you add the following website to you bookmarks list:
    https://www.facebook.com/JackassWhisperer

    and, always remember that though you are a hoof care service provider for/to Equus africanus asinus /Equus asinus that does not imply or actually mean that you are a Jackass Whisperer................ A fact, of which I regularly have to remind myself too.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by LarkspurCO View Post
    Actually, there are several there that are wide webbed on one branch and narrow(er) webbed on the the other. Which is good for comparison.
    Last edited by Rick Burten; Dec. 13, 2012 at 02:14 PM.



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    I appreciate that Tom set the record straight, otherwise I wouldn't have known the other poster was so far off base and might have beleived it hook, line and sinker.

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