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    Default A Father's Essay - Why He Had Horses for His Children

    I found this on the Eventing Nation blog today -- always the best info, news, entertainment and funnies.

    http://myemail.constantcontact.com/A...id=B9TJxluLq4M

    This link does not give credit to the man who wrote this fine piece. My children grew up the same. How true.

    A Father's Explanation of Why He Had Horses for His Children (borrowed from a facebook posting)

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    Perhaps more amusing is that Tracy Meisenbach who is not
    a father claims that she is the author of this work and that
    it has been copied without attribution on many sites.
    Robin from Dancing Horse Hill
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    Who ever actually wrote it, one of my friends posted this on their farm's Facebook page a month or so ago...I had never seen it before and so glad she posted it. Glad to see it again for it contains a lot of wisdom.



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    It definitely is true.
    Alot of my DD's friends that she hung out with in high school are now moms. ( most of them had babies before they hit 20). Sometimes my husband says things about how much money we spend on her horse but to me it is worth it.
    Although he also says the only males at the barn are the 4 legged kind.



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    I'm happy that the dad who wrote this piece has a lovely horsewoman as a daughter. BUT, I can name plenty of selfish nut-jobs who grew-up with horses, and needless to say, I don't think the countless hours they spent in the barn did much for them. Not to mention I know a lot of people who possess many of the wonderful qualities he mentioned who wouldn't go near a horse with a ten-foot broom. There is a big difference between causation and correlation.

    That said, I personally think horses have been a conduit in which I learned many "life skills", and for that, I am very grateful. But I would be kidding myself if I didn't acknowledge that I could have picked up those very same skills using a different medium--most people (even the ones with crazy hair and piercings) become responsible, productive members of society without horses in their lives...Horse people are yet to corner the market on responsibility, frugality, kindness, sportsmanship, etc. Heck, I know people who’ve spent their whole lives in the horse industry who don’t possess a single one of the qualities he mentioned.

    I hope this dad realizes that he doesn't just have a great kid "because of horses", he's got a great kid because HE decided to use horses as a tool to teach his daughter really important life lessons. He should give himself more credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin@DHH View Post
    Perhaps more amusing is that Tracy Meisenbach who is not
    a father claims that she is the author of this work and that
    it has been copied without attribution on many sites.
    I am the author and hold the copyright and have all legal proof. Please delete the post as it cannot be used without permission. The moderators are aware that I do not want my articles re-posted without attribution or permission and should have already removed it.
    Tracy M
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    Because my daughters grew up with horses I still have a $200 week feed bill


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinityapp View Post
    I am the author and hold the copyright and have all legal proof. Please delete the post as it cannot be used without permission. The moderators are aware that I do not want my articles re-posted without attribution or permission and should have already removed it.
    There she is! It only takes a moment. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!!!!
    "Aye God, Woodrow..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinityapp View Post
    I am the author and hold the copyright and have all legal proof. Please delete the post as it cannot be used without permission. The moderators are aware that I do not want my articles re-posted without attribution or permission and should have already removed it.
    I wonder if you learned about copyright infringement "because of horses"


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    Why is it this changes things for me, now?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Spot View Post
    There she is! It only takes a moment. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!!!!
    Actually, I was surprised she wasn't here sooner!! Creepy!!!!! And I thought maybe she'd stopped or mellowed because I've seen it on FB and she hasn't showed up.

    Wondering how Tracy's book is coming along, I haven't heard of any stampedes to the book store to buy it, so it must not be out, yet. It looks like the websites in her profile are down, too. Call it a hunch, but I don't think there will be a COTH book signing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finzean View Post
    Why is it this changes things for me, now?
    Me too. I'm kind of confounded. Why would this person ghost write a piece like this, then out themselves and cause all this disillusionment?? I really don't get the intent. Why not author your own piece, sign it and then be credited for it. What's the smoke screen for? and then to come back and be mad about it.
    The truth is what you can get other people to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pony grandma View Post
    Me too. I'm kind of confounded. Why would this person ghost write a piece like this, then out themselves and cause all this disillusionment?? I really don't get the intent. Why not author your own piece, sign it and then be credited for it. What's the smoke screen for? and then to come back and be mad about it.
    Sorry peeps. I'm the original author, deal with it. The piece is authorized for use by Breyer (c) and their attornies vetted it and reviewed the copyright. So all the people saying I didn't write it, or own the copyright are simply not being honest.
    I deplore that it causes people to steal, lie and become defensive when they see it, it certainly wasn't the intent when I wrote it for my daughter. She's had to deal with harassment and having her article misused for 4 years now. For some reason a piece about values brings out the worst behavior in people.
    The person with it listed on their blog has been reported, as they are using it without permission too. I just don't get why people can't ask permission, before using someone's work.
    Have a nice day, and thanks for once again contributing for why I am so sorry this piece was ever shared with anyone but my daughter. It just brings out the worst in people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinityapp View Post
    Sorry peeps. I'm the original author, deal with it. The piece is authorized for use by Breyer (c) and their attornies vetted it and reviewed the copyright. So all the people saying I didn't write it, or own the copyright are simply not being honest.
    I deplore that it causes people to steal, lie and become defensive when they see it, it certainly wasn't the intent when I wrote it for my daughter. She's had to deal with harassment and having her article misused for 4 years now. For some reason a piece about values brings out the worst behavior in people.
    The person with it listed on their blog has been reported, as they are using it without permission too. I just don't get why people can't ask permission, before using someone's work.
    Have a nice day, and thanks for once again contributing for why I am so sorry this piece was ever shared with anyone but my daughter. It just brings out the worst in people.

    ROFLMAO

    Irony much?

    A piece n how horses are good for the development of character...

    and then you show up and claim ownership.....

    Well, yeah, copyright. I suppose you own it. I lave it up to the Mods to deal with that, and the Chronicle's legal eagles....

    I find it however rather unflattering when the author shows him/herself to be utterly ungracious (not to say nasty) when the work is being admired.

    In this context, since it's not written by a father, and obviously penned by a person who did not learn the lessons herself, I'd say good riddance.

    Buh-bye
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    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.


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    Yes. Everyone ELSE behaves deplorably when it comes to this piece.
    "Aye God, Woodrow..."


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    Again, why is it always the thieves that get sympathy, but the person that is stolen from gets lambasted for being the bad guy?
    If I walked into your barn and "borrowed" your horse because I thought he was pretty you'd be mad. So why should I not be unhappy when people steal my articles and claim ownership? Theft is theft is theft, regardless of the intent. I don't steal other people's work and claim it. I don't borrow from others in my writing, and I don't condone the mis-use of copyrighted material. Sorry if being honest and showing integrity is wrong, but that is what the article is about. Having it constantly stolen and mis-used does defeat the purpose of the article, yet it happens endlessly.
    However, now that Breyer Creations(C) has requested use of it, and had my copyright vetted, it's going to make it much easier to go after people that mis-use it.
    Have a nice day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinityapp View Post
    Again, why is it always the thieves that get sympathy, but the person that is stolen from gets lambasted for being the bad guy?
    If I walked into your barn and "borrowed" your horse because I thought he was pretty you'd be mad. So why should I not be unhappy when people steal my articles and claim ownership? Theft is theft is theft, regardless of the intent. I don't steal other people's work and claim it. I don't borrow from others in my writing, and I don't condone the mis-use of copyrighted material. Sorry if being honest and showing integrity is wrong, but that is what the article is about. Having it constantly stolen and mis-used does defeat the purpose of the article, yet it happens endlessly.
    However, now that Breyer Creations(C) has requested use of it, and had my copyright vetted, it's going to make it much easier to go after people that mis-use it.
    Have a nice day.
    Oh, I should just leave it at that.....

    Oh what the hell.....

    the 'thieves' shared something they liked which came - as I gathered from the OP came without credit.
    Because, wonders of wonders, they liked it.

    Now, I do understand the problem of getting your dues once work appears in digital form, however, one need not leave manners ant tact at the door.

    I am sure a 'thank you for enjoying it, but stop using it' would be much more effective than what ever it is you are doing.
    yeah, it does somewhat cheapen your story. A lot.
    Nice work.

    it's not exactly as if the OP claimed to have written it.

    I am sure, after your display of....whatever it was... we will all be happy to oblige you and delete it from our favorites and memories.

    Have a better day.


    PS: Dear Mods, you forgot to pull the link.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.


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    I generally start with a nice request to please remove it. However, this tends to blow people up for some reason, because they feel the internet means FREE and they have a right to anything on it.
    What cheapens the story is the theft, not my defense of my property. Anyone that truly wishes to know where the story came from can search google and find it in about 2 seconds. I'm sure we all read things that inspire us, I happen to be fond of Dr. Deb Bennett, but I would NEVER steal her articles and post them somewhere else, regardless of how much I admire them. And I've seen her responses to the mis-use of her articles and it is NOT pretty.
    And for the record, people DO claim ownership. I've had to shut down the production of posters, cups, a kid's book and t-shirts because people stole it and were selling it. Thankfully, I have a good attorney and all the documentation from the day of creation so it's pretty easy to do. The problem with posting things on open forums like this is that everyone can just cut and paste away. I've had to have the article removed from porn sites where it was being used to lure children in. Should I have been nice about it and let them use it, just because it would "cheapen" the article to get mad? Or should I protect my work, and endless children by siccing a lawyer on them?
    Until someone has dealt with this issue for four years like I have they really do not understand how wearing it is to be constantly on alert for the mis-use of your property. It's like having to hire an armed guard to stand outside your horse's stall 24/7 so everyone that likes him doesn't take him for a ride.
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    you are certainly entitled to the opinion that the theft cheapens the story.

    But since you have supplied a feel-good story about valuable character traits, vs an article about something factual, your conduct does certainly play into things.

    Alas, you got your wish, the article is removed - at least from here.

    I had played with the idea of posting your diddy on some other forums, just out of curiosity to see how long it takes your web crawler to find them....

    And I will make a huge detour around other things you penned and created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinityapp View Post
    Sorry peeps. I'm the original author, deal with it. ... So all the people saying I didn't write it, or own the copyright are simply not being honest.
    Who? said that here?? Must be the baggage that you are bringing onto this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinityapp View Post
    For some reason a piece about values brings out the worst behavior in people.
    Nobody here reacted badly to the values in the essay. Where do you get this idea - it's the disillusionment of the authorship that they object to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trinityapp View Post
    I just don't get why people can't ask permission, before using someone's work.
    Well if you had written it and signed it as written by YOU, without the fake appearances, then you'd probably not have had this problem.
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