She is still young, expecting her first foal this year so I don't know yet what to expect from her, will need to choose for 2013 before she foals to import semen. She and was easy to breed (1x=preg) and my vet is a therio so should be a candidate for frozen... worth a shot? She's a sensitive mare with lots of pizazz but a lovely topline & uphill but she needs a level-headed mate that brings ridability. A big girl, 17H so will this cross - TANK?
I have seen Hochadel on a couple of occasions. I find him stunning, with great conformation, particularly his topline and loin/hip connection. His gaits are outstanding. He has an approved son, Heinrich Heine, standing at Celle who also has outstanding gaits and ridability. Superior Equine Sires has confirmed that his frozen semen will be available this year.
Celle confirmed that their test mares were able to get pregnant using Hochadel's frozen semen. I understood there was a new product and procedure that they used and the semen seems to be okay with it. Celle will always provide enough straws to ensure a reasonable chance at pregnancy. That all being said, and I know some people might be thinking about this, while there are some stallions you can split doses and end up with 2 or more pregnancies from a single dose, his is not one I, personally, would consider doing that with until it is better known just how well his new and improved semen performs on the open market in the general mare pool.
I found an article I had saved on my computer discussing certain trakehners and their influence on the Hanoverian - specifically Hohenstein, Caprimond, Karon and the great Arogno.
This whole particular line of stallions tend to stamp their offspring strongly with excellent riding type, character, and improvement of rideability. Additionally, while Caprimond needed length of leg in the mare, Hohenstein passed on good length of leg and frame. Both Caprimond and Hohenstein saw very good success when crossed with Weltmeyer or Donnerhall mares, which is where Hochadel comes in as he is the result of that classic nick.
With Hochadel, I have seen crosses doubling up the Donnerhall and they are very good horses (many breeders feel safe linebreeding or even slightly inbreeding to Donnerhall being aware that Donnerhall can produce a heavier type); but, some of the better crosses are with Rubinstein, Lauries Crusador and Weltmeyer descended mares, with stallions produced from these pairings.
Heinrich Heine (Rubinstein)
High Crusador (Lauries Crusador)
Hochstern (Lauries Crusador)
Hochmeister (Sherlock Holmes x Weltmeyer mare)
As you know, Rubinstein, Weltmeyer and Lauries Crusador, generally speaking, tended to stamp their offspring with a certain look, so that gives you a good idea of the mares' types. Other breeders might have more information.
I have seen him a number of times both in the stall and under saddle. He is really a nice horse, lots of Trakehner presence, beautiful face and neck, big frame, super ability to collect. Maybe a bit long in the back but he clearly uses himself well. A very impressive stallion that I would also love to try one of these times I am just not sure of what he is producing?
OP - I know and absolutely adore your mare. So regal, tons of presence, liver chestnut on top of it all.
And I really like and admire Hochadel, and do think his foals will be marketable in NA. I wonder, though whether you might look to stallions known to add legs without adding bulk. Maybe Romanov or Sir Donnerhall --- or if you want fresh, the Sir Donnerhall son Sir Gregory (if he gets his Hano approval). Dauphin might be interesting too, as he doesn't usually add size.
On Celle's list there is Londonderry and Sporcken.
Question - I have not seen Heinrich Heine ... is he lighter or heavier than Hochadel?
Both Hochadel and Heinrich Heine, to me, are modern types and not heavy. Heinrich Heine may be leggier than Hochadel. When I saw him, what really impressed me is that he was tacked up in his stall at Celle, led out, mounted on a cement aise and ridden through a crowd of people without flicking an ear or toe. I like that quality in a horse.
When I saw both Hochadel and Heinrich Heine, Hochadel oozed power and was an impressively regal horse. Loved that about him. You want real power in a dressage horse, especially in the hindquarters where it is really required. Temperament and behaviour were exemplary. I saw nothing glaring in the way of serious conformational faults for him and his movement was correct - a tiny bit of this or that is not really serious. Hochadel stands 171 cm - which is about 17.1 hands.
Heinrich Heine was still quite youthful when I saw him and obviously still growing and that could account for some of the smaller build that some people are talking about. He is still only 7 years old now and while he *should* be finished growing, maybe, he might not be. I have had warmbloods continue to grow into greater body frame into their 8th year. Heinrich Heine looked longer to me than Hochadel did and Heinrich Heine has a flatter, weaker croup - no, on second thought, that's not quite the right word that I want... his hindquarters and their connection did not look as powerful as I would like to see in a dressage horse. At 172 cm tall, he is not exactly a small horse. That translates to about 17.2 hands tall, but it's his musculature that should continue filling out during his 6, 7 and 8 year old years.
His lineage goes very well with Weltmeyer - for the one who asked, so using him with a Wolkentanz mare might be just what you wanted. I'm definitely considering him for my Wolkentanz-Belisar mare.
The stats specifically accumulated on Hochadel state that he improves the legs, improves type and improves dressage ability. There is no question Hochadel produces quality foals and very high quality riding horses. He has proven himself a multitude of times over and over again and his abilities as a quality producer should not really be in question. He has at least 55 States Premium mares registered just in Hanover alone out of about 205 total broodmares registered. That's a very high percentage of nearly 27% premium quality.