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    Default I think the HSUS was listening to me....

    They HUGELY reworded their sap commercials.

    it no longer suggests they just help poor mistreated puppies and kittens, they do state now that donations fund ALL their work, including better animal protection laws...

    We are screwed.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    They HUGELY reworded their sap commercials.

    it no longer suggests they just help poor mistreated puppies and kittens, they do state now that donations fund ALL their work, including better animal protection laws...

    We are screwed.....
    I don't get it. Why are we screwed?
    I saw the angel in the marble and I set him free. - Michaelangelo



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    Quote Originally Posted by cu.at.x View Post
    I don't get it. Why are we screwed?
    Oh dear....
    they can't even be had for false advertising anymore.

    Seems like they put their ducks in a row now.

    Up until recently it was all about the poor abused puppies and kittens.
    'your donation will help us stop abuse'

    Now they have stepped it up, adding 'all our efforts' or something like that to the text, as well as the thing about getting animal protection laws past.

    If you have paid attention around COTH in the last decade, you would know by know what the 'animal protection laws' look like.
    And while the wording of the add (the guy raiding a puppy mill with the Chi dog) was vague enough to make people believe the are helping the little critters, it's also clear enough that there is no doubt as to what you are funding - should you have any complaints later.

    Yes, we are screwed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.


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    Yes, if you have paid attention to certain COTH members they hate HSUS and use the COTH BB to tell everyone the "truth" of their opinion.

    Got it !


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    Quote Originally Posted by stolen virtue View Post
    Yes, if you have paid attention to certain COTH members they hate HSUS and use the COTH BB to tell everyone the "truth" of their opinion.

    Got it !
    Oh, I am sorry.
    You missed the tinfoil sale on Black Friday?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    Oh, I am sorry.
    You missed the tinfoil sale on Black Friday?
    I rest my case.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by stolen virtue View Post
    I rest my case.....
    well, you did not have to open the thread, given it has the key word in the title and moi as originator....so don't complain.

    and no, I have no use for them.
    Not one iota.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.


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    Oh, ok. I get it now. I support Best Friends. Have no clue about HSUS.
    I saw the angel in the marble and I set him free. - Michaelangelo


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    Quote Originally Posted by cu.at.x View Post
    Oh, ok. I get it now. I support Best Friends. Have no clue about HSUS.
    PETA with suits
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
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    "well, you did not have to open the thread"

    Yah, heard it all before. So those of us with a different opinion should not bother to comment so as not to get in the way of your opinion.

    Yah, got it, you want to have only those posters to blow smoke up your backside. Got it ! Really, have you spent your life having people support your every word ? I find posters like you funny !


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    Quote Originally Posted by stolen virtue View Post
    "well, you did not have to open the thread"

    Yah, heard it all before. So those of us with a different opinion should not bother to comment so as not to get in the way of your opinion.

    Yah, got it, you want to have only those posters to blow smoke up your backside. Got it ! Really, have you spent your life having people support your every word ? I find posters like you funny !
    Thanks for the continued bump.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
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    Delusional much ?


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    Well this certainly turned snarky in a hurry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGrayPony View Post
    Well this certainly turned snarky in a hurry.
    It always does.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mozart View Post
    Personally, I think the moderate use of shock collars in training humans should be allowed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stolen virtue View Post
    Yes, if you have paid attention to certain COTH members they hate HSUS and use the COTH BB to tell everyone the "truth" of their opinion.
    That's right. A little sunshine on the truth never hurts anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alagirl View Post
    PETA with suits
    I visited Best friends 2 years ago, started out all warm and fuzzy. Then, when I was in the house with the parrots I made the mistake of mentioning that I had a cool parrot (domestically bred, whom I have had for 25 years, who lives with a friend and whom I will always look out for) and you would have thought that I had just confessed to molesting toddlers. Because having a bird as a pet is krewel. I could feel the judgement dripping off this woman for the rest of our tour. I really annoyed me, I was able to handle almost every bird on that building, even the more shy ones - it's should have been clear that I was not some newbie who just ran into a pet store and bought a big parrot, only to abandon him later.

    When we left, we left a donation with the understanding that we did not want to be on their mailing lists etc and guess what? We got home and already had a request for more money, after quite a generous donation and strong assurances by the woman taking my money that I would not be added to their mailing list. I have asked for two solid years to be removed from their mailing list to no avail. So, while they might do some good things, I now have them categorized with the rest of the judgemental do-gooders who just want money and the ability to tell everyone else what to do with their animals.


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    If their commercials are less misleading, I don't have a problem with that.

    Most people do seem to believe HSUS is the same thing as their local humane society, though. So the damage is done. (and just think of how many small shelters have been deprived of donations because people "gave to the national office")

    I'd be satisfied if their commercials were honest and accurate. Since few would donate if that were the case, I won't hold my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSwan View Post
    If their commercials are less misleading, I don't have a problem with that.

    Most people do seem to believe HSUS is the same thing as their local humane society, though. So the damage is done. (and just think of how many small shelters have been deprived of donations because people "gave to the national office")

    I'd be satisfied if their commercials were honest and accurate. Since few would donate if that were the case, I won't hold my breath.
    well, they were borderline untruthful. That is a problem within the law, no?
    Now they are still misleading, but more carefully crafted.

    And I still need a vomit bag when they come on....

    No, I don't expect them to put all their cards on the table, but this new ad is pretty darn truthful. Still fluffy and feelgood, but I have a feeling while with the other ads one could have had a case, not playing a lawyer on TV and staing away from they Holiday Inn Express, they closed a loophole....

    And in game speak, I wish they would all stand in a fire...
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    It never ceases to amaze me that on board like this, of horse people, there are still some who still have no idea of the danger of the whole animal rights people!!!!
    We do not have an overpopulation of dogs, we have an under population of responsible dog owners!!!


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    why is it a bad thing that their ads are more truthful?
    Frankly, they were never going to be "had" for false advertising and anything that makes the commercials less mis-leading is an improvement in my book- however minor that improvement may be.
    Of course, in order to actually eliminate donorn confusion the commercials would have to affirmatively state that HSUS is not associated with local humane societies and less than 1% of their budget goes to actual animal care, but that would come close to stopping the money train so it ain't ever gonna happen
    There is something about the outside of a horse that is good for the inside of a man.(Churchill)


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    People need to donate local. I must admit, before I started volunteering for a local rescue, I thought HSUS was the national version of our local societies. Now when people find out I work with a rescue and tell me 'I donate to HSUS every month!' I feel obligated to tell them that they may as well throw that money down the toilet.


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