The Chronicle of the Horse
MagazineNewsHorse SportsHorse CareCOTH StoreVoicesThe Chronicle UntackedDirectoriesMarketplaceDates & Results
 
Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 65
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct. 13, 2003
    Posts
    3,757

    Default tracks where many of the owners are listed as the trainer

    I was watching HRTV or TVG the other day and for one of the races most of the owners were listed as the trainer. I forget which track, though.

    Is that more common at smaller tracks? Very common?

    Thanks.



  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar. 8, 2004
    Location
    Baltimore, MD
    Posts
    19,592

    Default

    I owned most of the horses I raced over the past twenty years and was also their trainer. I would say it is incredibly common.


    4 members found this post helpful.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct. 21, 1999
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    12,185

    Default

    Very common at Fingerlakes.
    Originally Posted by Alagirl
    We just love to shame poor people...when in reality, we are all just peasants.



  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun. 6, 2010
    Posts
    305

    Default

    Is pretty common at bottom level claiming and gyp tracks.
    Is one of the 2 things you should look for as indicators of a place to keep away from.

    The other thing being mechanical walking machines. Good tracks you wont see them either.
    "I am going to have horse racing as my business, and my hobby will be punishing each and every one of you pinheads, so happy blogging you have my attention"
    Michael Gill-2010


    1 members found this post helpful.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar. 7, 2003
    Posts
    4,057

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Profidia View Post
    Is one of the 2 things you should look for as indicators of a place to keep away from.
    'Literally made me lol. 'As if all trainer/owners are seedy. 'As if nothing sketchy has ever happened at Keeneland or Saratoga.


    12 members found this post helpful.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar. 8, 2004
    Location
    Baltimore, MD
    Posts
    19,592

    Default

    Don't even bother arguing with negative Nancy. If a trainer doesn't have enough faith in their abilities to put their own money where their mouth is THAT is a place to keep away from.


    14 members found this post helpful.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Nov. 14, 2011
    Location
    racetrack
    Posts
    1,432

    Default

    Oh yeah, sure sign of a barbaric society. You know our knuckles drag the ground and we beat our horses over the heads with our clubs...
    Quote Originally Posted by Profidia View Post
    Is pretty common at bottom level claiming and gyp tracks.
    Is one of the 2 things you should look for as indicators of a place to keep away from.

    The other thing being mechanical walking machines. Good tracks you wont see them either.

    "Pat the horse; kick yourself" - Carl Hester


    4 members found this post helpful.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct. 17, 2002
    Location
    West Point, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    1,331

    Default

    I laughed at that too. We own and train most of our horses.
    It is nice to keep owner noses out of condition books. That way
    the horses run when we feel they are ready. Not when the owner
    does.
    RIP Spider Murphy 4/20/02 - 10/31/10


    8 members found this post helpful.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Nov. 13, 2006
    Posts
    1,276

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelico View Post
    Oh yeah, sure sign of a barbaric society. You know our knuckles drag the ground and we beat our horses over the heads with our clubs...
    LMAO and we eat our young too


    3 members found this post helpful.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug. 26, 2012
    Location
    MO
    Posts
    49

    Default

    It's funny that my multiple stakes winner went on the walking machine every morning. Try to hot walk him and he would kill you and himself. Put him on the walker and he walked around like a pony.
    He made a lot of money at those "gyp" tracks with owner/trainers and mechanical walkers.


    6 members found this post helpful.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Aug. 26, 2012
    Location
    MO
    Posts
    49

    Default

    It's funny that my multiple stakes winner went on the walking machine every morning. Try to hot walk him and he would kill you and himself. Put him on the walker and he walked around like a pony.
    He made a lot of money at those "gyp" tracks with owner/trainers and mechanical walkers.


    4 members found this post helpful.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Apr. 23, 2004
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    973

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by anotherfinemess View Post
    It's funny that my multiple stakes winner went on the walking machine every morning. Try to hot walk him and he would kill you and himself. Put him on the walker and he walked around like a pony.
    He made a lot of money at those "gyp" tracks with owner/trainers and mechanical walkers.
    Sounds like the same walker my horses have used.

    What a snob.


    3 members found this post helpful.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    May. 24, 2006
    Posts
    2,888

    Default

    I think Profidia's statement was one of the most offensive I have seen on these boards in awhile. It defies both logic and polite words.


    9 members found this post helpful.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jun. 6, 2010
    Posts
    305

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by anotherfinemess View Post
    It's funny that my multiple stakes winner went on the walking machine every morning. Try to hot walk him and he would kill you and himself. Put him on the walker and he walked around like a pony.
    Maybe you should have put the puke in the hands of a competent trainer? Personally if I couldn't at least teach one to lead properly I'd not broadcast it on the internet. For most folks with rudimentary horsemanship skills is somewhat of an embarrassment to say the least. What was the trick to walking him to and from the machine? paddock? On second though never mind. What you said already speaks volumes.

    Quote Originally Posted by tradewind View Post
    I think Profidia's statement was one of the most offensive I have seen on these boards in awhile. It defies both logic and polite words.
    LMAO! I wasn't even trying. Ask anybody that knows me I can do much better
    Last edited by Profidia; Dec. 6, 2012 at 09:32 AM.
    "I am going to have horse racing as my business, and my hobby will be punishing each and every one of you pinheads, so happy blogging you have my attention"
    Michael Gill-2010


    1 members found this post helpful.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Mar. 12, 2006
    Location
    Ocala
    Posts
    1,219

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Profidia View Post
    Is pretty common at bottom level claiming and gyp tracks.
    Is one of the 2 things you should look for as indicators of a place to keep away from.

    The other thing being mechanical walking machines. Good tracks you wont see them either.
    Ive seen a lot of stupid comments on this particular forum, but this one may be the stupidest of all. Congratulations.


    12 members found this post helpful.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Oct. 8, 2002
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    9,371

    Default

    Well folks, there's todays lesson in How Not To Win Friends and Influence People... heh
    "smile a lot can let us ride happy,it is good thing"

    My CANTER blog.


    11 members found this post helpful.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Feb. 13, 2007
    Location
    Down on the Farm
    Posts
    3,054

    Default

    Profidia is already on my list of "those that have no clue", so not much surprising here.


    6 members found this post helpful.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Jun. 6, 2010
    Posts
    305

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Acertainsmile View Post
    Profidia is already on my list of "those that have no clue", so not much surprising here.
    Ok so I see just as I figured the cowboy hat crowd is annoyed at my pointing out the obvious.
    Can any of you county fair folks point out to me which of these trainers owns any of the horses in his barn? or which of these horses are owned by the guy training him/her?
    http://tra-online.com/leaders.html
    How often do Owner/Trainers get to the top of the standings?
    "I am going to have horse racing as my business, and my hobby will be punishing each and every one of you pinheads, so happy blogging you have my attention"
    Michael Gill-2010


    1 members found this post helpful.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Mar. 12, 2006
    Location
    Ocala
    Posts
    1,219

    Default

    I apologize. Calling you stupid was an insult to stupid people.

    Start with Jerry Hollendorfer and Bruce Headley.

    Owner trainers dont often get to the top of the owner and trainer standings, because they dont own or train hundreds of horses. They generally have just a few horses because its expensive, unless they hit with a nice stakes horse, and there have been HUNDREDS of good stakes horses trained by owner/trainers.


    9 members found this post helpful.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Mar. 12, 2006
    Location
    Ocala
    Posts
    1,219

    Default

    Kona Gold, Blind Luck, Dancing Guy come to mind off the top of my head.


    5 members found this post helpful.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 48
    Last Post: Oct. 20, 2012, 12:14 PM
  2. Owners now listed at Equibase
    By lifesabreeze in forum Racing
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: Apr. 6, 2012, 09:03 AM
  3. CANTER M-A trainer listed horses (Charles Town, WV)
    By caffeinated in forum Giveaways
    Replies: 29
    Last Post: Jul. 14, 2011, 05:21 PM
  4. Dog (coyote) tracks VS. Cat (cougar) tracks???
    By mlranchtx in forum Around The Farm
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: Aug. 6, 2009, 11:52 AM
  5. Replies: 15
    Last Post: Jan. 7, 2009, 02:59 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
randomness