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    Quote Originally Posted by darkmoonlady View Post
    They could have made this election about the economy about jobs but they didn't through their own "smack their mouth, did I just say that" kind of quotes, they made this about social issues and their apparent complete lack of knowledge how a uterus works.

    Sorry but I just keep finding more nonsense in this post.

    I need you to help me out here-the way *I* saw the spin on the events leading up to the annointing...I mean the election...is the GOP was focused on the economy and the Dems kept spinning it to social issues.

    Actually I think that is pretty much a historical fact in every election.

    A little lesson for you on how our political parties work...

    GOP (Daddy) worry about things like balanced budgets, increasing dept, future spending and the impact on its children.

    GOP is constantly checking on its wallet to make sure there will be enough.

    Dems (Think of a small toddler in the gimme gimme mine mine phase) has no regard for the wallet and does believe money does grow on trees so fails to understand when GOP actually puts economics ABOVE issues like free birth control that seem slightly irrelevant WHEN facing a national bankruptcy.

    Now Daddy is not some cold hearted abuser-he understands there are some children that have special needs and wants to make sure they are provided for-but Daddy gets tired of wasting money on his perfectly healthy lazy child who is unwilling to work.

    Daddy thinks things like providing his child opportunity so he can become self sufficient is more important than spoon feeding him for his entire life. Daddy enjoys watching his child enjoy the self esteem and reward that comes from self sufficiency.

    Daddy also is well aware that life is unfair, not everyone gets to play and not everyone deserves a ribbon.

    Just sucks keeping it real, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyBlue View Post
    So are you saying that all Republicans think/feel that way?

    That only a very few Republicans represent the entire party?

    That what a few morons said means that anyone who doesn't belong to your political party of choice is asking for insults?
    How about the vice presidential candidate, does he count?

    “I’m very proud of my pro-life record, and I’ve always adopted the idea that, the position that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life,” Paul Ryan.

    Do you remember the Blunt Amendment? Do you remember the Ryan/Akin Personhood Bill (Sanctity of Human Life Act of 2009) which would have outlawed all abortions, many forms of hormonal contracption, the IUD and invitro fertilization. I don't recall seeing an exception for an ectopic pregnancy either.

    Did you forget about all the anti-abortion bills, the defunding Planned Parenthood attempts, the waiting times, the vaginal probe, the not forcing a woman to keep her eyes open to view the ultrasound? And the ever popular "women rape easy."

    Looks like more than just a few crackpots.
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    LMH, perfect analogy!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    How about the vice presidential candidate, does he count?

    “I’m very proud of my pro-life record, and I’ve always adopted the idea that, the position that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life,” Paul Ryan.

    Do you remember the Blunt Amendment? Do you remember the Ryan/Akin Personhood Bill (Sanctity of Human Life Act of 2009) which would have outlawed all abortions, many forms of hormonal contracption, the IUD and invitro fertilization. I don't recall seeing an exception for an ectopic pregnancy either.

    Did you forget about all the anti-abortion bills, the defunding Planned Parenthood attempts, the waiting times, the vaginal probe, the not forcing a woman to keep her eyes open to view the ultrasound? And the ever popular "women rape easy."

    Looks like more than just a few crackpots.
    You do realize that abortion, despite the personal wishes of many, is here to stay? I am a die hard conservative, and I realize this. People that actually believe it is gonna get changed are not thinking it thru. It is going to have to take Congress agreeing in massive amounts to get it overturned. I am not sure that this bunch can agree on the color of the sky-so how are they going to overturn the abortion law? It is a non issue not because it is not important, but because it is going to take agreement from Congressmen and women.

    Personally, I despise the thought of abortion, but as I have said before, I dont get to make that call for anyone but me, the way it should be. However, I do NOT think the government should pay in any way shape form or fashion for abortion or birthcontrol. Those are personal choices, and should be paid for with personal money. How hard is that. If you can't afford to buy birth control, don't have sex until you can afford a box of condoms. I know, I know, some folks on here are gonna go ballistic and want to march and protest at my house because I said this. When you do have that thought, ask yourself if what I said is fundamentally wrong or just advocating personal responsibility.
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    How about the vice presidential candidate, does he count?

    “I’m very proud of my pro-life record, and I’ve always adopted the idea that, the position that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life,” Paul Ryan.

    Do you remember the Blunt Amendment? Do you remember the Ryan/Akin Personhood Bill (Sanctity of Human Life Act of 2009) which would have outlawed all abortions, many forms of hormonal contracption, the IUD and invitro fertilization. I don't recall seeing an exception for an ectopic pregnancy either.

    Did you forget about all the anti-abortion bills, the defunding Planned Parenthood attempts, the waiting times, the vaginal probe, the not forcing a woman to keep her eyes open to view the ultrasound? And the ever popular "women rape easy."

    Looks like more than just a few crackpots.
    So you're saying that this is a reason to insult and disparage all Republicans everywhere?

    That no Democrats have ever said anything stupid?

    Yes I remember all of that. And haven;t supported any of it. I believe 100% in pro-choice and a penis has zero say in a uterus.

    But that doesn't matter...and the fact that all Reps don't believe that. Nor do the majority of them. Nor do any of the few morons make any headway on their stupidity or ignorance.

    All that matters is those complete and utter fools made the headlines online and with the talking heads on TV and that then opens the door for anyone voting Dem to then insult, berate and belittle any and all Rep citizens.


    Okay. Gotcha. Thanks.

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    I'm not sure if I regret joining this board, or am grateful for the eye opener about how ugly seemingly nice people can be. The amount of hatred here is remarkable, on both sides (though this thread in particular is definitely a circle jerk for conservatives).


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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but ugly is confined to Republicans and Fox News?

    Just how does that work?
    “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
    ― Albert Einstein


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    Quote Originally Posted by big_red_ottb View Post
    I'm not sure if I regret joining this board, or am grateful for the eye opener about how ugly seemingly nice people can be. The amount of hatred here is remarkable, on both sides (though this thread in particular is definitely a circle jerk for conservatives).
    Well it certainly didn't take you long to jump in, now did it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by horsefaerie View Post
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but ugly is confined to Republicans and Fox News?

    Just how does that work?
    Smoke some legal pot and it will ALL make sense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    How about the vice presidential candidate, does he count?

    “I’m very proud of my pro-life record, and I’ve always adopted the idea that, the position that the method of conception doesn’t change the definition of life,” Paul Ryan.

    Do you remember the Blunt Amendment? Do you remember the Ryan/Akin Personhood Bill (Sanctity of Human Life Act of 2009) which would have outlawed all abortions, many forms of hormonal contracption, the IUD and invitro fertilization. I don't recall seeing an exception for an ectopic pregnancy either.

    Did you forget about all the anti-abortion bills, the defunding Planned Parenthood attempts, the waiting times, the vaginal probe, the not forcing a woman to keep her eyes open to view the ultrasound? And the ever popular "women rape easy."

    Looks like more than just a few crackpots.
    These are the GOP leaders and Romney did not condemn them for their views-HE SUPPORTED THEM. I find it insane that some of you republicans can say that these views and the republican platforms don't represent your views but that you support Romney.

    And this idea that Democrats say "stupid things" and so it makes it all even, No. Democrats did not say the above, Bush said silly things like Biden, but they did not advocate for the Blunt Ammendment or defunding Planned Parenthood. Not the same not even close.

    If you want to be a Romney/Ryan supporter then own the ticket, own the party and stop pretending that "they didn't really mean it" They said it and they meant it !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnalli View Post
    You do realize that abortion, despite the personal wishes of many, is here to stay? I am a die hard conservative, and I realize this. People that actually believe it is gonna get changed are not thinking it thru. It is going to have to take Congress agreeing in massive amounts to get it overturned. I am not sure that this bunch can agree on the color of the sky-so how are they going to overturn the abortion law? It is a non issue not because it is not important, but because it is going to take agreement from Congressmen and women.

    Personally, I despise the thought of abortion, but as I have said before, I dont get to make that call for anyone but me, the way it should be. However, I do NOT think the government should pay in any way shape form or fashion for abortion or birthcontrol. Those are personal choices, and should be paid for with personal money. How hard is that. If you can't afford to buy birth control, don't have sex until you can afford a box of condoms. I know, I know, some folks on here are gonna go ballistic and want to march and protest at my house because I said this. When you do have that thought, ask yourself if what I said is fundamentally wrong or just advocating personal responsibility.
    This ^^

    There was an awlful lot of fear tactics being pulled out by Planned Parenthood and the ads that they ran. Do you REALLY believe that we will ever see Roe v Wade (which btw was a lie) overturned in our lifetime? But if Romney ran on "hate" (which I still don't get), than OB ran on fear....
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    Quote Originally Posted by stolen virtue View Post
    These are the GOP leaders and Romney did not condemn them for their views-HE SUPPORTED THEM. I find it insane that some of you republicans can say that these views and the republican platforms don't represent your views but that you support Romney.

    And this idea that Democrats say "stupid things" and so it makes it all even, No. Democrats did not say the above, Bush said silly things like Biden, but they did not advocate for the Blunt Ammendment or defunding Planned Parenthood. Not the same not even close.

    If you want to be a Romney/Ryan supporter then own the ticket, own the party and stop pretending that "they didn't really mean it" They said it and they meant it !

    What a ridiculous requirement. I don't think many people on either side embrace every view point of every candidate.

    And please show me where Romney supported the yahoo's comment on the child of a rape being a blessing.

    And another little newsflash-some people actually did not 'support' Romney but the thought of putting our economic future in the hands of Obama became so frightening that it would override any disagreements on social issues.

    And as someone already said, the GOP can fuss all day long about abortion (no doubt to appeal to the far right) but I can assure you even the most vocal is in touch with reality enough to know it will never be repealed.

    So now we will have gay mariage, free birth control, free health care that costs more than previous healthcare and pot...but we will be financially devastated and have no respect globally.

    Way to go America. Way to go.

    Maybe we need to fund a basic math course since over 50% of America fails to understand simply addition and subtraction.


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    I agree that Roe v. Wade will not be overturned by SCOTUS, which BTW is the only body capable of overturning. Not a President, not Congress.
    As for free birth control, if a female cannot afford $10.00 a month for a pack of birth control pills, she needs to get off her back and go work at McDonalds for two hours a month.
    Free bar.ka and tidy rabbit.


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    Good job, Noms and LMH!


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    Quote Originally Posted by chemteach View Post
    As for free birth control, if a female cannot afford $10.00 a month for a pack of birth control pills, she needs to get off her back and go work at McDonalds for two hours a month.
    The Fluke wannabes will argue that BC is often used for 'health purposes' and it often is.

    It is also quite possible to include BC for medical purpose in health coverage but not allow it for birth control.

    Granted it would be a loophole but would at least quiet each side.

    AND AND I don't see an issue with it being included in a health care policy.

    But free for criminy sake?

    Geez.

    I would like my red wine for free...it is used for medicinal purposes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnalli View Post
    You do realize that abortion, despite the personal wishes of many, is here to stay? I am a die hard conservative, and I realize this. People that actually believe it is gonna get changed are not thinking it thru. It is going to have to take Congress agreeing in massive amounts to get it overturned. I am not sure that this bunch can agree on the color of the sky-so how are they going to overturn the abortion law? It is a non issue not because it is not important, but because it is going to take agreement from Congressmen and women.

    Personally, I despise the thought of abortion, but as I have said before, I dont get to make that call for anyone but me, the way it should be. However, I do NOT think the government should pay in any way shape form or fashion for abortion or birthcontrol. Those are personal choices, and should be paid for with personal money. How hard is that. If you can't afford to buy birth control, don't have sex until you can afford a box of condoms. I know, I know, some folks on here are gonna go ballistic and want to march and protest at my house because I said this. When you do have that thought, ask yourself if what I said is fundamentally wrong or just advocating personal responsibility.
    No, all it would have taken was a Supreme Court decision. It's 5 - 4 now against reversal. Romney might have had as many as 3 Supreme Court picks and he said he would be happy to see Roe v Wade reversed.

    If they don't believe it, they shouldn't say it.

    You say birth control is a personal choice and government shouldn't pay for it. What about pregnancy care? That's a personal choice. You're making personal moral (most likely religous) judgement about birth control. How do you feel about Viagra?

    It's been proved that access to low cost and affordable birth control lowers abortions. Why would you be against lowering the abortion rate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    No, all it would have taken was a Supreme Court decision. It's 5 - 4 now against reversal. Romney might have had as many as 3 Supreme Court picks and he said he would be happy to see Roe v Wade reversed.

    If they don't believe it, they shouldn't say it.

    You say birth control is a personal choice and government shouldn't pay for it. What about pregancy care? That's a personal choice. You're making personal moral judgement about birth control. How do you feel about Viagra?
    Viagra should only be prescribed for it's initial purpose, which was to improve circulatory problems. I do not think we need to cover it for it's "discovered as a side effect" purpose.


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    Good grief GOVERNMENT shouldn't pay for ANY of it for an able bodied person.


    But heck ya if some homeless crackhead needs a way to keep from having 12 kids, let's help her pay for it!

    Even better let's fund her rehab and try to get her self-sufficient.

    Why is it SO hard for the gimmegimmes to follow the bouncing ball?

    Perhaps we need to go back to political science around 7th grade and review the role of government???

    According to the Dems it IS to pay for MY red wine because it helps my stress which contributes to heart disease, etc etc...

    Maybe I should consider changing parties.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LMH View Post
    What a ridiculous requirement. I don't think many people on either side embrace every view point of every candidate.

    And please show me where Romney supported the yahoo's comment on the child of a rape being a blessing.

    And another little newsflash-some people actually did not 'support' Romney but the thought of putting our economic future in the hands of Obama became so frightening that it would override any disagreements on social issues.

    And as someone already said, the GOP can fuss all day long about abortion (no doubt to appeal to the far right) but I can assure you even the most vocal is in touch with reality enough to know it will never be repealed.

    So now we will have gay mariage, free birth control, free health care that costs more than previous healthcare and pot...but we will be financially devastated and have no respect globally.

    Way to go America. Way to go.

    Maybe we need to fund a basic math course since over 50% of America fails to understand simply addition and subtraction.
    Well, gee the pro-Mourdak adds by Romney, gee he didn't really mean to support his views......I cannot believe you think it is OK for someone running for President to support someone who thinks "Rape is Gods will" . Own the ticket, own the party and it's platforms.

    Free healthcare that costs more than the previous healthcare ? It is called health insurance, ever had it ? You actually pay what is called "premiums" every month and in return they pay a portion or all of you healthcare needs or for birthcontrol all of your costs.

    Yes, I think a basic math class might be a good idea along with a class that explains how health insurance works since I will never understand how "free healthcare that costs more than the previous healthcare" relates to any healthcare reform.


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    Epic Republican butthurt.
    Epic Republican butthurt?
    Epic Republican butthurt!
    Epic Republican butthurt.!?
    Epic Republican butthurt.!?
    Epic Republican butthurt.!?

    No matter how I say it it still doesn't make sense.


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