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    Painting alone make a *huge* difference. I've been wanting to redo my kitchen here, but the cost of a complete redo is so expensive. And if I'm going to spend that much money, I'd want my kitchen to be exactly what I want. And that would mean a lot more money...knocking down a wall to make it a great room and then that means new ceilings and floors too. Goes from a $20-$25k cost to $40k.

    So I painted the cabinets, painted the brick backsplash and added new hardware. I also replaced all appliances except for the cooktop. Normally I prefer a very rustic or farmhouse type kitchen, but my cabinet style is flat front plain and the boxes they hang on are low quality too so no refacing and the only color that didn't make them look worse was dark espresso brown. So that kind of made it a little more modern. But it's still a major improvement...without the cost of the new appliances this kitchen redo was the cost of 4 gallons of paint for cabinets, walls and backsplash:
    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...itchenredo.jpg

    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tchenredo2.png

    So paint, pulls, etc might be little changes. But they can make an enormous difference.

    Can't wait to see your "after" photos next OT time.
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    The solid surface with the built in sink and both sides with drain channels might work just fine for that area. Then you could do whatever countertops you want for the rest of the area. I know Corian does that, and they might even do that in quartz or something. Go see the biggest kitchen store you can find, or the big box stores and see what they have special order. The solid surface in the right pattern would look rustic enough to keep the tone.
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    Silastone and Cesarstone are both nice solid surfaces. A couple others I can't remember offhand. Manufactured stones, usually from quartz. Or quartz itself. Quartz is a MUCH tougher alternative to granite. And less expensive. Not cheap though either.
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    Maybe a few OT times away, MistyBlue The sunroom is first in line, because I want to see just how much more natural light I get in the kitchen before I make any decisions about it. They're scheduled to dig the foundation for that this month, but the building itself won't be done until over the Winter.

    I really like what you did with your kitchen. It's amazing what a difference that paint made. I'm just not a quick decider. I'm one of those people who plans and schemes and dreams forever before I actually do anything. I won't tell you how long I have been dreaming about this sunroom.
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    Oh, Corian, that's a thought. I have that in the bathroom and I love it! I'll look into the other two, also. I never heard of them. I'm so out of touch with the modern world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louise View Post
    Well, pish! I thought that oldhouseweb sounded great so I attempted to register, only to be told that they are not accepting any new registrations at this time.
    Maybe here? http://www.oldhouseonline.com/
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    Caesarstone, Silestone, and Han stone are just three brand names for quartz. And keep an eye out, because I bet there are going to be discounts on discontinued colors, or on orders where someone wanted a particular quartz, the slabs were ordered, and then it got cancelled. And I'm sure some of the most popular ones are over ordered by the big installers. You really save by pricing it around, and going directly to the installer can be a great savings. When you go to the big box stores for counters or cabinets you not only pay for the material, fabricating, installation, but for the store's profits. You save on buying direct by only paying the installer and rabricator for the same item. The installation with the big box stores is very pricey.

    For example: When I bought custom white faux wood 2" blinds from a direct dealer locally it included installation. The big box stores were just the regular stock, cut down to fit, and installation was going to cost as much as the blinds. And for the custom blinds I bought better quality, and for less. Basically, I got better quality, installation included, personalized service, and for less than the blinds would have cost at the big box store.

    And for additions like sunrooms-don't forget you have to have heating/cooling to include it in square footage for resale.
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    A sunroom will be so nice! And everyone wants a bright sunny kitchen.

    Took me years to do something with my kitchen too. Was always worried I'd start something and then not like it or make it worse, LOL!

    HGTV was a huge help...with ideas and seeing before and afters. Googling online kitchens wasn't the biggest help because I was coming up with beauties that can't quite be made with paint:

    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...05/kitchen.jpg

    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...SGuFPFz7_c.jpg

    Hubba hubba!

    I've got a thing for banquettes too:
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    Yup, when I have a gazillion dollars to spend, that might be just the ticket, MistyBlue.

    That's a good site, DeeThbd. I'll have to spend some time looking through it.
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    My favorite inspiration website is: Houzz.com. You can search all kinds of things, vintage kitchen might be a start. Very cute kitchen!



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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyBlue View Post
    Painting alone make a *huge* difference. I've been wanting to redo my kitchen here, but the cost of a complete redo is so expensive. And if I'm going to spend that much money, I'd want my kitchen to be exactly what I want. And that would mean a lot more money...knocking down a wall to make it a great room and then that means new ceilings and floors too. Goes from a $20-$25k cost to $40k.

    So I painted the cabinets, painted the brick backsplash and added new hardware. I also replaced all appliances except for the cooktop. Normally I prefer a very rustic or farmhouse type kitchen, but my cabinet style is flat front plain and the boxes they hang on are low quality too so no refacing and the only color that didn't make them look worse was dark espresso brown. So that kind of made it a little more modern. But it's still a major improvement...without the cost of the new appliances this kitchen redo was the cost of 4 gallons of paint for cabinets, walls and backsplash:
    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...itchenredo.jpg

    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...tchenredo2.png

    So paint, pulls, etc might be little changes. But they can make an enormous difference.

    Can't wait to see your "after" photos next OT time.
    Those darker cabines are really neat, looks so much better.

    For those considering lightening the kitchen, get an electrician to give you a bid on putting can lights all over, three over bar areas, one or two close to the sink, two or three along where people walk.

    Those don't cost much and they are wonderful to give you light everyplace.

    I think that some can lights in the ceiling would really bring those dark cabinets out and finish the modern look and still keep the same cozy, warm feeling you have there.

    I was wondering about that when the electrician was telling me what he wanted to do, but I have to admit he was right, the lights and how he placed them is a wonderful way to make the room stand out.



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    I saw something very affordable and cool today. At Lowes they have a line of tile called "Style Selections", and they were backsplash tile that was a good price. I think it's their store brand, and I bet the other big box stores will have something similar. Apparently we can save without buying discontinued tiles, and having to buy tons extra in case something happens to it or there is breakage. It's about time they started having something attractive in glass or mixed glass/ceramic backsplash and floor tiles that normal people can afford.
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    Your cabinetry looks a lot like mine did. This past spring, I painted the whole kitchen to freshen it up. The base cabinets are a cocoa brown, the upper cabinets are a soft white and the walls light blue. I cleaned up and reused the hammered copper pulls. It turned out very cute - I dare say as cute as many of the $$$ kitchen redos that I have seen.

    For your sink, there are companies here who will resurface bathtubs, I wonder if they'd do kitchen sinks as well. I'm assuming it is the enamel getting worn, no underlying issues otherwise. Might be worth looking into.
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    Yes, the resurfacers do all kinds of sinks, and such. And if you truly love a sink, and can't get a replacement, then the fact it only last a couple of years might not be so bad. The stainless ones I saw with the built in drainboard cost about $1500 and up, so reenameling for say $300 (I have no idea how much it costs), and if you treat it well the enamel might hold up longer. And it makes a difference who the re-enameler is, because a quick and dirty job where they don't etch the current enamel won't last as long. A friend bought an older condo with a tub that was resurfaced, and it was obviously the low bidder, and a quick and dirty job that didn't last at all.
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    The companies around here that put the molded stuff over the current bathtubs and showers won't do kitchen sinks. I've asked. There is, as far as I can tell, only one company that re-porcelains. That is, that gets the job done right by taking off the old porcelain coating and putting a completely new one on. That company is in Illinois, and I simply don't have the money to have the sink pulled, ship it out there, pay the rather high cost of getting the job done, then getting it back here and re-installed. I wish I did.

    Everything that I have read indicates that re-enameling is a vastly inferior method than that, and that, in a kitchen sink, it just doesn't work because the coating is too soft. I just can't see wasting the money on something that is going to look crappy in a couple of years, and have to be replaced again.

    If you go back and look at the picture I posted of it, my sink isn't that bad. It's probably one of those that other people would be searching for from the second-hand dealers. The big problem with it is that, over the years, the porcelain has roughened and thinned. That means it picks up stains much more readily. But, if I bleach it once a week or so, it really looks fine. I also, of course, use nothing but soft scrubbers now to clean it.

    I decided to take the first step, by the way. I called the people who are doing the sunroom and told them that I wanted to continue the tiling into the kitchen and pantry. That will give me a little continuity in that whole area of the house. Once I get that picked out, I should have a better idea of what I want to do with the cabinets, counter and walls.

    You all have really been such a huge help. You have pointed me in directions that I never would have thought of going. Just one of the many reasons why I have been a loyal and enthusiastic member of COTH for so many years.
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    Make sure you get extra tile, in case you have to patch later. The silly tile suppliers like to discontinue types or change the color slightly so nothing matches.

    I was in Lowes today, and the only sinks I saw with the sink included (as opposed to undermount, and I love my undermount, but it's modern not classic) were the solid surface like Corian, and Corian and other solid surface can stain so you won't be better off than you are now. It could be that there are quartz with sinks merged into the counters, but I didn't see any. And it's not as if there was a kitchen specialist around anywhere either (another pet peeve of mine-disappearing sales people). If you get a regular top mounted sink don't get one with the raised edge. My old house had that (the lip of the sink was at least an inch taller than the countertop), and I had to get a taller wooden cutting board to boost the sink drainer and drain pan high enough for the water to go anywhere.
    Last edited by JanM; Nov. 9, 2012 at 03:03 PM.
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