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    Default Old horse, long/weird coat

    The old man (Thoroughbred) is 27 today. He's got a weird coat... His winter coat is really long, which makes sense as it was a very cold winter and he was not blanketed. It's shedding out, but the best way to get the hair out is to pinch the ends of a clump of hairs and just pull them out. The coat underneath is longer than a normal summer coat, but I'm not sure if it's actually his summer coat or another layer of the winter coat. What I find rather odd is that on his neck, the hair left after shedding is extremely fine and soft and downy, and again longer than a typical summer coat. It's like the fur cats have right behind their ears. His coat is not curly/wavy, and he doesn't have any other symptoms of Cushing's.

    Any thoughts? I am going to call my vet! But it's breeding season and she's busy, so I want to have some ideas before I call so I'm not just bouncing ideas off her.
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    Just because he "doesn't have any other symptoms of cushings" doesn't mean diddly.

    Get him tested for Cushings. I'm betting at his age and the description you give, he has Cushings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
    Just because he "doesn't have any other symptoms of cushings" doesn't mean diddly.

    Get him tested for Cushings. I'm betting at his age and the description you give, he has Cushings.
    That's kind of what I was thinking, but never having dealt with it before, I wasn't sure if I was just jumping to conclusions.
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    I test senior horses for cushings and IR every spring as often the first sign is laminitis. Do a fecal as well if you haven't already.



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    Odds are that he will test positive for Cushings. Even TB's are not immune.
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    Laurie, which tests do you use? Cornell has 5 different tests listed for Cushing's....
    Endogenous ACT
    Insulin
    TRH-Response: ACTH
    Dexamethasone-Suppression
    TRH-Response: Cortisol.

    Dexamethasone suppression is out, as it requires a second sample 19 hours later.. I'll discuss everything with my vet, and then have my dairy cow vet dad actually draw and submit the blood. So drawing a sample the next day is just about impossible.

    Merrygoround, I know TBs aren't immune, although they are generally a thousand times better than other breeds .
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    Merrygoround, I know TBs aren't immune, although they are generally a thousand times better than other breeds .

    Agreed
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    He tests for ACTH, insulin and thyroid.



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    As others have suggested I would suspect that he has developed Cushings.



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    There's a TB at the stable I board at that I'm pretty sure has cushings. Long, soft coat. Other than that there are no other signs of anything.



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    My retired TB started to not shed out his winter coat a few years ago (he's now 25). My vet felt that testing for Cushings might be inconclusive in his particular case and recommended instead that we put him on Thyro-L. He's been on it ever since and now sheds out his woolly mammoth coat every spring.



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