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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumcreek View Post
    mvp - "I don't quite know how someone establishes that they have the right to "do trade" in the horse show world."

    I do not remember the particulars, but I believe a 'restriction of trade' lawsuit was the catalyst for AQHA eliminating the excessive white rule for registration of foals .
    I don't know how they'll argue that point either. After all, Barney Ward has been banned from USEF shows for life and he's still in business. The man can prep them from 3 feet off any show grounds and effectively train show horses.

    There is a long history of breed associations holding the power to "limit trade" if members want to participate in contests they sponsor. In the 19th century there were some huge suits involving faked milk production records for Holstein dairy cattle. The Holstein-Friesian Association won by kicking the offending breeder out and reserving the right to limit membership because it was a private organization.
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    Apparently Mr.Buck/dragonheart8 can't afford to sue.

    http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/userfi...%20Granted.pdf



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    Quote Originally Posted by skydy View Post
    Apparently Mr.Buck/dragonheart8 can't afford to sue.

    http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/userfi...%20Granted.pdf
    The man doesn't have the $520 required to serve a few Defendants at $65 a pop.

    So.... how much did he pay an attorney to get this far, dipping a big toe in a big ol' swamp of spending?
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    He is bringing the lawsuit Pro se, (in other words, he has no attorney).



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    Lostboy and SanJac, he's in Utah. He doesn't do horse shows of any stripe, I gather. showing is abusive, dontcha know.



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    For those who have missed it , here is his mug shot
    http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/userfi...%20Granted.pdf

    and "jumping" with chains on http://spirithorseltd.com.futuresite...obyjumping.jpg

    a few gems have been removed from youtube however this one is still on, as of now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sTiry6zJ1M

    and then there is this : http://theofficialsiteofgrantmiller....esents_17.html

    Apparently he has a facebook following (I'm not on facebook and haven't seen it).
    Last edited by skydy; Nov. 14, 2012 at 02:55 AM. Reason: To Add


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    Quote Originally Posted by skydy View Post
    I love how they link to the bitless bridle as the 'biteless bridle'.



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    what a whacko!


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    Yes indeed I am a wacko.
    Seems to many of you self righteous Cothers are simply meely mouthed hypocrites.
    The lawsuit has legal merit and standing so stop showing your ignorance. I, me, withdrew because I could not serve them...........the court did not take the action and I can bring suit at a later date.



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    You serve your ego, and nothing else, Buckie.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonharte8 View Post
    Yes indeed I am a wacko.
    Seems to many of you self righteous Cothers are simply meely mouthed hypocrites.
    The lawsuit has legal merit and standing so stop showing your ignorance. I, me, withdrew because I could not serve them...........the court did not take the action and I can bring suit at a later date.
    You might want to try something besides suing, you don't seem to have a lot of luck. Mind you, what I went looking for was to see whether you actually have any horse training experience, but these public links are all that came up. Well, there is the bitless bridle further down the search results page, but tenuous at best with regard to expertise in training and showing horses...

    http://ca10.washburnlaw.edu/cases/2007/07/06-4236.htm

    http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ut-court-...s/1489852.html

    http://statecasefiles.justia.com/doc...buck110608.pdf


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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonharte8 View Post
    Yes indeed I am a wacko.
    Seems to many of you self righteous Cothers are simply meely mouthed hypocrites.
    The lawsuit has legal merit and standing so stop showing your ignorance. I, me, withdrew because I could not serve them...........the court did not take the action and I can bring suit at a later date.
    Mr. Buck, I actually DO understand that you could not proceed with your lawsuit against the AQHA because you could not afford the fee required to serve the papers. I read both of your filings...it was exhausting, but I did read them. I think you should save your $500.00 (when you do have it to spend).


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    Beverley, somebody here has preserved for all time the Reverend's riding lesson expertise on YouTube. It will give you all the information you need on his abilities as a teacher and trainer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skydy View Post
    Mr. Buck, I actually DO understand that you could not proceed with your lawsuit against the AQHA because you could not afford the fee required to serve the papers. I read both of your filings...it was exhausting, but I did read them. I think you should save your $500.00 (when you do have it to spend).
    good advice!



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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonharte8 View Post
    Yes indeed I am a wacko.
    Seems to many of you self righteous Cothers are simply meely mouthed hypocrites.
    The lawsuit has legal merit and standing so stop showing your ignorance. I, me, withdrew because I could not serve them...........the court did not take the action and I can bring suit at a later date.
    I am far from being a "self righteous Cothers". And I own quarter horse and a member of AQHA. Sir you are "NUTS"!
    Last edited by 7HL; Dec. 30, 2012 at 02:25 PM.


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    Why, yes, he is, 7HL. He admits he's a whacko.

    I concur.



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