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  1. #1
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    Default Critique for me please!

    I plan to go to the Suffolk Showcase-- I'm JUST looking, as I cannot bring home a horse this year :-(.

    I'm trying really hard to learn to look at a horse photo/horse in person, and see past the package of height/color...... I read lots of the conformation comments/critiques posted here, and slowly some of it's sinking in........ so would anyone want to play critique for me??? Pretend their intended new job would be the 3' hunters

    Here's a few that I picked just on height/color/pretty package :-)

    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296



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    They should all be more than able to do 3' hunters.

    I like Nobles Honor- worth the time to rehab the bow. Plenty tall enough, and his butt is in balance with his front end. Nice neck. Solid. IMO the only thing not to like is the bow, and that doesn't need to be a deal breaker.
    *Dream Doer- a little light behind
    *Beachfront Property- light bone, slightly long back.
    (* These two are pretty close, but I like the Nobles Honor much better than either)
    MJ Enchanteur- good bone, but there's something very funky about his back.

    I look for balance- the front and back must match.

    Look at Code Taker. He has nuts but that can be fixed.
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    Awesome Preacher and King Mongo- I like these and am willing to dismiss the upright pasterns as a result of being stood up in a non-flattering pose.
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    Seaway Summer and South Jak have some appeal.
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296
    madeline
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    gee, I must be learning something here and there! I really liked Code Taker, but didn't post because of the "nuts issue"

    I also liked Awesome Preacher, but figured four was enough to look @ :-)

    thanks for the comments!



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    I want to go to the showcase, too. I've never been, and I *also* can't take a horse home, but a parade of horseflesh? Yes please!

    My favorites from the bunch come from Madeline: Code Taker and South Jak.



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    I actually didn't like Noble's Honor - his pasterns look a bit weak to me, which I do not like in a jumping prospect. Beachfront looked nice except for the long back. I think I personally liked Dream Doer best, nice legs and a good shoulder.



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    I would buy Code Talker, arrange for immediate brain surgery and live happily ever after!
    F O.B
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linny View Post
    I would buy Code Talker, arrange for immediate brain surgery and live happily ever after!

    LOL ^^this!!!

    if my life wasn't in such crisis mode w/the hubs' cancer, we would probably end up with another, but we're facing selling the ones we have, so it wouldn't be fair to take one in then have to find another home for him/her.............

    I'm going and treating it as a conformation "clinic" of sorts....



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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBayHanoMare View Post
    I want to go to the showcase, too. I've never been, and I *also* can't take a horse home, but a parade of horseflesh? Yes please!

    My favorites from the bunch come from Madeline: Code Taker and South Jak.
    you should go!! it was a little hectic during the actual showcase, but after all the horses went thru you could go to their actual barns and take a really good look at them. ALL the trainers I talked to were very nice, pretty patient and the CANTER volunteers are EXTREMELY helpful..



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    Here's a mare I noticed when looking at Canter horses the other day: Powerful Sarah. I see a small lump in front of her rt. hock-bog spavin? She is listed as being sound, though, and look at that cute face! Might be worth a look.



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    she does have a very cute face/head! she's not at Suffolk tho :-(

    as far as a broodmare prospect, here's her pedigree,thoughts on that also appreciated :-)

    http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pe...ts_indicator=Y



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    That Code Taker horse is absolutely gorgeous! So flashy! Someone should totally geld him and remake him as a hunter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gabby.gator View Post
    LOL ^^this!!!

    if my life wasn't in such crisis mode w/the hubs' cancer, we would probably end up with another, but we're facing selling the ones we have, so it wouldn't be fair to take one in then have to find another home for him/her.............

    I'm going and treating it as a conformation "clinic" of sorts....
    Keeping a good thought for your hubby.
    F O.B
    Resident racing historian ~~~ Re-riders Clique
    Founder of the Mighty Thoroughbred Clique



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    Quote Originally Posted by gabby.gator View Post
    you should go!! it was a little hectic during the actual showcase, but after all the horses went thru you could go to their actual barns and take a really good look at them. ALL the trainers I talked to were very nice, pretty patient and the CANTER volunteers are EXTREMELY helpful..
    I might just go! It will be a good horsey day as that night I'm going to see War Horse in town.

    ETA: It would be awesome to have a New England CoTH/Equinesite BB meet-up at Suffolk, too!



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    The last one is my favorite! (conformationally)

    The first one's not too bad either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    They should all be more than able to do 3' hunters.

    I like Nobles Honor- worth the time to rehab the bow. Plenty tall enough, and his butt is in balance with his front end. Nice neck. Solid. IMO the only thing not to like is the bow, and that doesn't need to be a deal breaker.
    *Dream Doer- a little light behind
    *Beachfront Property- light bone, slightly long back.
    (* These two are pretty close, but I like the Nobles Honor much better than either)
    MJ Enchanteur- good bone, but there's something very funky about his back.

    I look for balance- the front and back must match.

    Look at Code Taker. He has nuts but that can be fixed.
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    Awesome Preacher and King Mongo- I like these and am willing to dismiss the upright pasterns as a result of being stood up in a non-flattering pose.
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    Seaway Summer and South Jak have some appeal.
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296
    OK, I'll play. Nobles Honor of the original 4 would be the one that would be your hunter type, however in addition to the bow I didn't love his legs over all. Bit of a dull expression, to me.

    I liked South Jak, and LOVED Seaway Summer. That mare was a perfect example of a horse that you could divide into three balanced segments, front, middle and hindquarters. I loved her head, neck and expression. She looks light, balanced and naturally athletic.

    Then, I took another look and saw these two...

    Untouchable Rock:
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    This would be my favorite, especially for a hunter. Handsome, balanced, gorgeous head and neck, flashy. Big & SOUND.

    Dueling Cat:
    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    Also tall, dark and handsome. I would love to see this horse posed better! Again, big, sound and well proportioned. I just can't tell if his neck is a little short, or if its the akward photo. I still think he is another nice one of the lot.



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    I personally liked Nobles Honor. I think he looks like a great hunter candidate. He has chrome and a lovely expression on him overall. It's hard to tell without seeing them go. Pictures can be deceiving, depending on how the light hits them, the way they are standing etc..

    I also liked Code Talker. Very handsome and nicely built. Only thing is you'd have to geld him. Which would be an additional cost but worth it I think.

    Believe it or not I actually like this guy too. He may not be perfect confirmation wise but he already has that big and round hunter look and he seems very well taken care of and really sweet. Temperment to me is just as important as confirmation imo.

    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    To be truthful, once you get some gorceries and muscle on these guys, they will all look completely different. Right now they are race fit.

    Good Luck! Wish I had more money then for just one horse...there are some lovely ones out there



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mako View Post
    I personally liked Nobles Honor. I think he looks like a great hunter candidate. He has chrome and a lovely expression on him overall. It's hard to tell without seeing them go. Pictures can be deceiving, depending on how the light hits them, the way they are standing etc..

    I also liked Code Talker. Very handsome and nicely built. Only thing is you'd have to geld him. Which would be an additional cost but worth it I think.

    Believe it or not I actually like this guy too. He may not be perfect confirmation wise but he already has that big and round hunter look and he seems very well taken care of and really sweet. Temperment to me is just as important as confirmation imo.

    http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?o...ngs&Itemid=296

    To be truthful, once you get some gorceries and muscle on these guys, they will all look completely different. Right now they are race fit.

    Good Luck! Wish I had more money then for just one horse...there are some lovely ones out there
    I am with you on the grey horse...a good mind is worth a lot!



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    I like Nobles Honor, but structurally he is SO downhill - it would be tough, I think, to get him up off that forehand. Doable, but hard.

    Of the original four, I like MJ's Enchanteur and Beachfront Property the most. I wish MJ had more of a rump, but with time and work that would develop. He should be able to work off that hind end relatively well. I like Beachfront except for her small shoulder and strange neck placement...but with some time off that could change a lot.

    I really don't like Dream Doer's conformation much at all. She has nice, sturdy looking legs. Otherwise I'm not a fan, although I don't see any glaring faults. She just doesn't appeal to me, I suppose!



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    I have it on good authority that Dream Doer has found a new home!!



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    Default Dream Doer

    I ended up purchasing Dream Doer at Suffolk Downs, my first personal venture with an OTTB youngster. She is a sweetheart of a filly. She's just about 16.3 hands and is still growing, she's only 3.5 years old. She's put a bunch of weight on over the last couple of months. She's very sound, pretty mover and improving the more she relaxes and learns to be a riding horse.

    I've probably put between 15-20 rides on her and she's quiet as a lamb and someone spent a lot of time teaching her great ground manners. I can climb on her cold after a week off and she just goes right to work. She fits in great at my private 6 stall barn and enjoys her all day turnout. She'll have most of the winter off to grow up and enjoy being a horse again and then this spring she'll go into a program. I couldn't be happier so far and am hoping she'll turn into my adult hunter over the next few years.



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