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  1. #61
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    My 16.3hh TB Al Amir. Size 3 shoes. Starting to fox hunt now. We're on hunt #3 and he's one of the quietest I've been on in the field. Babysits my husband on trails.

    http://i45.tinypic.com/119xfgn.jpg



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    Quote Originally Posted by vineyridge View Post
    Actually there has been a substantial change in the TB as a breed in the past 50 years, beginning in the US primarily. Starting with Nearco and the spread of his genes around the world, a formerly rare version of a myostatin gene that has a large place in muscle development and also whether a horse has a "preference" for longer distances is not present in at least 50% of TBs. It's also present in 90% of QHa today. This is the famous "speed" gene and the C allele. It seems to be "fairly" recent mutation, in the grand scheme of things. The "wild" version is the T variant, whose effect can be summarized as making a horse mature at a later age and be stamina oriented. The mutation is the C variant. It fosters precocity and sprinting.

    Back when the C variant was very rare (10% or less, per Dr. Emmeline Hill), sprinters were greyhounds. A homozygous C horse will sprint, mature early, and develop to look much like a QH because of the way the muscles respond to training.

    If anyone would like cites for this, I have oodles.

    Anyone who calls this stallion weedy is blind or on crack.
    http://www.littlehawkfarm.com/default%20stallion.html
    You would think they would know how to spell his sire's name. The first thing that jumped out at me is huh? but it's right in the pedigree. He is a handsome guy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kaluha2 View Post
    Fred: I just love "A Fine Romance". What a class act. Of course that just happens to be one of my all time favorite songs sung by non other than a very young Ginger Rogers. Your horse is fabulous. Did you name him??

    I am loving all the photos everyone is showing off their TB's be they 17+hands or 15.2.

    They are just lovely. Thanks
    Thanks very much Kaluha.
    I did name him. I am a HUGE Fred Astaire fan, and was trying to name my horses with FA song titles.
    I like the song too, it always makes me smile. There is a popular version by Louis Armstrong and Ella Fitzgerald but I like the Fred Astaire/Ginger Rogers version best.

    That year I also had a filly, born first whose barn name was 'Ginger' - it gave me a smile every.time (yes, I am easily amused) to say 'I'm going out to bring in Fred and Ginger'.


    Thanks again for the very kind comments.



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    Quote Originally Posted by hundredacres View Post
    GREAT shots! Who is that?
    That's my awesome pony, Tracks Protege.

    Has a jump that is just unreal.

    He's a chunk, too!



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    Quote Originally Posted by hundredacres View Post
    She fooled me too! I never would have guessed TB - and she's lovely anyway
    Thanks, hundredacres. She's my fierce girl; when the boss mare starts throwing her weight around, Vivie often gives her some attitude back before backing off. But she's so quiet to ride and very sensitive. She was bred to turf race but never made it to the track-- lucky for me! I'll try to dig up a better pic to show her off.



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    Here's a pretty famous recent weedy, unsubstantial TB.

    Oh, and this frail little thing.

    Delicate creature, this one.

    We're done proving a point now, right? We're onto posting pretty pictures of the most versatile, athletic, driven horse breed ever made, correct? I like pretty pictures.
    bar.ka think u al.l. susp.ect
    free bar.ka and tidy rabbit



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    Fred: I can't get the damn song out of my head. LOL
    I have every single movie on vhs and still plug them in late at night. What great movies and the dancing and the songs are unbeatable. All I ever wanted was just one "dip" from Fred.

    I am just really enjoying all the pictures and conversation on this thread. Love it. Thanks everyone.



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    Another thing that skews impressions is that many times the horses we see are both immature and racing fit. When they finally do mature, many do end up being VERY substantial.
    "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
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    Vineyridge:

    I think you are correct. For the most part a racing fit TB is all some have seen. And then there is a lot to be said for a TB ridden and fed correctly for muscle development and once they fill out and grow up they are a whole nother animal.

    Someone made the statement that nowadays they are breeding little TB's with a 10" stride. Who are these breeders? Names please. I have heard this same thing from the two that made me start this thread. Neither one has any experience with TB's and honestly they are both pretty new to the hose scene---so until I get documentation on this I'll just call that someone parroting something they heard or an opinion on a forum to make themselves sound like they know about the breeding of TB's and/or badly bred and you can find that in any breed. LOL!

    I've ridden 17.0 h WB's that had a stride of a gerbil.
    I've also ridden 15.3h TB's that ate up the lines with an eye popping length of stride with plenty of bone and substance to outlive Moses.



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    I don't know, I thought my current horse was rather gawky and weedy when I first saw him as a 4 yr old, but he's matured into a 17 hand tank of a horse.

    Here's a couple of pics of the tank;
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater
    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

    Yeah, they are a whole other animal once they've grown into themselves.



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    My gelding skipped the weedy memo, but seems to be shooting for fat pony


    https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...31091355_n.jpg



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    Quote Originally Posted by FairWeather View Post
    That's my awesome pony, Tracks Protege.

    Has a jump that is just unreal.

    He's a chunk, too!
    Lovely! Crazy, being that he's a weedy TB .

    Quote Originally Posted by realrush89 View Post
    Thanks, hundredacres. She's my fierce girl; when the boss mare starts throwing her weight around, Vivie often gives her some attitude back before backing off. But she's so quiet to ride and very sensitive. She was bred to turf race but never made it to the track-- lucky for me! I'll try to dig up a better pic to show her off.
    Please do...I still don't believe she's a TB (just kidding, just egging for pictures).

    So many excellent examples here....I'm honestly shocked about the lack of education on TB's - if I were able to own only one horse (shudder), it would definitely be a versatile, big hearted TB.



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    I recently had a clinic with a well-known international clinician who was convinced my 6yo OTTB mare was a warmblood. She started out pretty "weedy" - she was a malnourished 3yo when I got her, but at 6 she wears an 80" blanket and a 54" girth and is really a tank.

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...eforeafter.jpg
    before/after ("after" picture was 1.5 years ago)

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...1_070small.jpg

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...2_017small.jpg
    a week ago

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...1_046small.jpg
    horrible form over fences

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...1_031small.jpg
    even looks cute Western



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    Quote Originally Posted by Starhouse View Post
    I recently had a clinic with a well-known international clinician who was convinced my 6yo OTTB mare was a warmblood. She started out pretty "weedy" - she was a malnourished 3yo when I got her, but at 6 she wears an 80" blanket and a 54" girth and is really a tank.

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...eforeafter.jpg
    before/after ("after" picture was 1.5 years ago)

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...1_070small.jpg

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...2_017small.jpg
    a week ago

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...1_046small.jpg
    horrible form over fences

    http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...1_031small.jpg
    even looks cute Western
    I'm in love!!

    My girl is currently 4. She was a tank of a 2 yr old as you can see from the earlier picture. She did kind of go through a long look in her 3 yr old year but she's bulking up again now.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...fpasture04.jpg
    3yr old and as weedy as she ever got. I'll have to get some recent shots.



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    OP, tell your friends to go watch the morning workouts at the track. They'll see that TBs come in all shapes and sizes. My old gal was one of the small, narrow skinny minnies (but had a heart of gold), my gelding tends toward being a lard a** (he's the powerhouse type, 16 hands with a big engine) and my current mare is long, tall and lanky with big bone, more the warmblood type although she is clearly all TB.

    Have to add that some of the little ones are super athletic and catty. Gin n Juice comes to mind.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebels_Princess View Post
    I'm in love!!

    My girl is currently 4. She was a tank of a 2 yr old as you can see from the earlier picture. She did kind of go through a long look in her 3 yr old year but she's bulking up again now.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...fpasture04.jpg
    3yr old and as weedy as she ever got. I'll have to get some recent shots.
    Thanks your girl is beautiful, too. It's always so exciting to get them looking young and awkward, and then watch them blossom.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxtrot's View Post
    For years we had the 'weedy' TB's here in BC - all about 15.2 - could handle the smaller track, came out of a mold. But now with Kentucky breds coming up the style has changed. Nothing sport horsey about them as a rule.
    I was going to make the same comment regarding the local track. I grew up back east with TBs who were 16.2 and well sprung (AFR is to me what a good TB is supposed to look like)... I was actually a bit shocked when I moved west and started meeting all the little guys! Some super nice horses, just in a more compact package to suit their job.

    My own mare is half WB (other half TB) and to me the TB side has made her that much more ridable...
    "Adulthood? You're playing with ponies. That is, like, every 9 year old girl's dream. Adulthood?? You're rocking the HELL out of grade 6, girl."



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    "OP, tell your friends to go watch the morning workouts at the track. They'll see that TBs come in all shapes and sizes"

    Boy how I wish I could tell them that but we don't have any flat track here only steeplechase. Otherwise I would be hanging at the track for early morning works. I wish I had not taken those years for granted and had taken pictures as there is nothing like early morning watchin g and hearing the horses galloping by. It's been a great life!



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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsymare View Post
    My 16.3hh TB Al Amir. Size 3 shoes. Starting to fox hunt now. We're on hunt #3 and he's one of the quietest I've been on in the field. Babysits my husband on trails.

    http://i45.tinypic.com/119xfgn.jpg
    Whooooieee, that is one handsome horse!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by hundredacres View Post
    Please do...I still don't believe she's a TB (just kidding, just egging for pictures).
    OK, sorry it took me so long to get around to this, but here ya go. And I even took a pic of her papers just for "proof". Hope you enjoy!

    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...lrush89/16.jpg
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...lrush89/20.jpg
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...iviepapers.jpg

    And here's the original photo I posted, for comparison:
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ps0fcf5e95.jpg



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