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  1. #1
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    Default G. Ramiro Z sons in US?

    wondering if anyone's interested in breeding their mares to a G. Ramiro z x Darco stallion in the US? Approved zangersheide, similar bloodlines to Magic Darco (who's sired by Darco out of Ramiro dam). Too related to my mares but I do love to play hypo-mating...



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    Does Z approval for a stallion carry over for any of the registries operating in NA?

    IOW, how would one register a foal by said stallion? And - my mantra these days - with a registry that DNA tests every foal for parentage verification?



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    The stallion Noteworthy stood at my farm this season. He is Ramiro x Bergerac x Ramiro. Lovely stallion. He was competed as a dressage horse by his original owner but his pedigree is Jumper.
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    Z is an Erkend Studbook for the KWPN, so foals from a mare of at least Reg A would receive Reg A papers.

    That's my understanding. The KWPN-NA office is always very helpful with a quick call to confirm this.

    http://kwpn-na.org/display/files/Reg...Chart_2012.pdf

    http://kwpn-na.org/breeding/horses.php

    kwpn-na.org > Breeding Program > KWPN Erkend



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    Default z registry

    Quote Originally Posted by DownYonder View Post
    Does Z approval for a stallion carry over for any of the registries operating in NA?

    IOW, how would one register a foal by said stallion? And - my mantra these days - with a registry that DNA tests every foal for parentage verification?
    The Z approved stallion registry carries over to BWP-NA- that I've confirmed.

    I don't know about the other registries enough to give an opinion. I always get written confirmation from a registrar of which ever verband when I have questions cuz we've all had the experience where a seller will say some 10 yr old mix is registerable in some fancy foal book when that's not the case at all.



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    Default ooh lah Noteworthy

    Quote Originally Posted by ajimom View Post
    The stallion Noteworthy stood at my farm this season. He is Ramiro x Bergerac x Ramiro. Lovely stallion. He was competed as a dressage horse by his original owner but his pedigree is Jumper.



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    What is the stallion's name and motherline? Any further info...?
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    Default waiting till the ink dries...

    Quote Originally Posted by Leah A View Post
    What is the stallion's name and motherline? Any further info...?
    I haven't finalized any sales documents, so I'd be jumping the gun releasing his name at this point.

    his damsire is Darco and her dam of dam line is thru Ibraham. I hope that helps.


    btw: the babies on your website are niiiiiiiice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mareslave View Post
    I haven't finalized any sales documents, so I'd be jumping the gun releasing his name at this point.

    his damsire is Darco and her dam of dam line is thru Ibraham. I hope that helps.


    btw: the babies on your website are niiiiiiiice.
    He looks rather interesting.
    "Sometimes you just have to shut up and color."



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    we have a freedom Z mare, her dad is a grandson on the dam side - and she is fantastic

    Freedom Z
    1987, bay Hanoverian Stallion
    16.2 hands
    by Furioso II
    out of Roxan Z
    by Ramiro Z
    Breeding, Training and Showing Select Warmblood Cross Sport Horses.
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    we laugh that G. Ramiro Z was the universal donor- when I put his name in the sire search field on horsetelex, the website revolts with "search returns too many horses to list. please modify search terms."



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