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  1. #1
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    Default Need to find equine dentist in Orange area.

    Hello,

    The wonderful dentist I used last year will not come out to my new barn in Orange. It's too far for him unless he's got a whole day full of horses lined up. The barn owner only needs a few of hers done so it's not enough for him to make the trip.

    So I'm on the hunt for a new one but I don't just want to call the first guy in the phone book, you know? I don't like using my vet because they use drugs and power floats and I'd really prefer no drugs and hand tools. The barn owner usually uses her vet but she'd prefer the latter kind as well if I can find one. There aren't any other boarders I can ask and I don't know any other horse people in the area. So if you know a good dentist in the Culpeper/Orange/Keswick area please share.

    Thanks!
    "But if you buy them as ponies aren't they cheaper?"



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    Quality Equine Dental:

    P.O. Box 432
    Remington, VA 22734
    ph: (540) 937-9856
    appointments@qualityequinedentalcare.com

    I've used them several times when my horses were in Virginia. Love them.

    ETA that I just saw you prefer no drugs. I'm not sure if they'll float without drugs, but it doesn't hurt to call and ask. They DO however, do manual floating.
    "It is not necessary for you to let everyone know everything about you. In fact, it is probably wise that you don't. There are some things that you need only discuss with God."



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    Awesome! Thank you, I will give them a call.
    "But if you buy them as ponies aren't they cheaper?"



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    Let us know what you find out... I, too, prefer no drugs.
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    Did you use ken pankow? He's the best.
    I'm totally with you on the hand tools and no drugs unless the horse is a particular problem. I'm generally horrified by the dentistry done by the vets in the area.
    Last edited by CBoylen; Sep. 13, 2012 at 09:40 PM.



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    Just curious...why the insistence on no pharmaceuticals? Do you get your own dental work done without the benefit of pain and anxiety relief?

    I use Keswick Equine and have always been happy with the work.
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    Default Quality Equine Dental

    I second the Quality Equine Dental recommendation. In my experience, however, they always have a vet tranquilize the horse.



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    Quote Originally Posted by curiousgirl View Post
    I second the Quality Equine Dental recommendation. In my experience, however, they always have a vet tranquilize the horse.
    Yes they do Require sedation always. Best equine dentist in VA is Jeff Talbot out of Warrenton. He is 3rd generation. He does not use drugs. He's quite tall and the first time I saw him walk into my daughters 17', unruly young WBX's stall and calmly go to work I was sold. Horse was probably in shock but he stood like a lamb & still does. He's good with the young ones too. Not expensive, and if the teeth are good, he won't float them and he won't charge you. He's way too busy to make work for himself.He's also a really nice guy.



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    Second Jeff. He always managed to do our barn full of race horses, sans drugs. Not sure why so many people have decided drugging and power tools are the end all for floating
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    I used Ken Pankow when I lived in Rappahannock. I am not familiar with Jeff, but he sounds good, too.

    I prefer no drugs unless necessary and power tools don't impress me. My POA is weird and does not mind the floating at all.
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    Wow, didn't realize there were so many responses. I use Keswick Equine too and think they're great but I really prefer the services of a good dentist to most vets. I prefer no drugs because it isn't usually isn't necessary when hand floats are used and is then an added expense. Over the years I have used two different (excellent) equine dentists and my horses resisted MUCH less with them on no drugs than they resisted the vets with drugs (including Keswick Equine). A routine floating shouldn't hurt them, just like a routine cleaning doesn't hurt me. I certainly prefer no drugs when I go in for a cleaning. And actually, my anxiety goes through the roof when I do have to have novocaine. Though if something is going to hurt I will certainly use drugs. The dentists I have used have no problem letting me know if something requires more work and drugs, and I follow their recommendations.

    Vets get very little training in equine dentistry in comparison to dentists certified through the IAED. I also strongly dislike the power floats most vets use for the bulk of the floating. It is very easy to damage the teeth with the excessive heat buildup and I'm just not confident that most vets have enough training to properly wield them. Of course I have no training at all and so I can't make a judgment call about a particular vet's skills, which is why I like to err on the side of caution and use a dentist who does not use power tools.

    I emailed both Ken Pankow and Quality Equine Dental but have not received replies yet. I will follow up with a phone call to Ken since hearing the latter will require drugs. I'll also give Jeff a call.

    Thanks for all the suggestions!
    "But if you buy them as ponies aren't they cheaper?"



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    Absolutely give Ken a call, he's usually pretty prompt about returning calls. He works all over the area and will come for just a few horses if it fits into a path for a day.



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    VA_Hunter_Aside - The debate between vets v non-vet dentists, power v hand floating, and drugs v no drugs continues without the understanding of these main points.

    Point one - good horsemen can float most horses well and bad horsemen can't regardless of whether they have a degree or are certified by an organization.

    Point two - How power is applied to the float blade is irrelevant now; however, the technique of effectively applying the blade to the tooth is everything and power tools have no advantage over hand floating. The number of floats done and the clarity in the mind of the floater of the end result determines how well the teeth are floated.

    Point three - The use of drugs on every horse to float is the work-around for poor horsemanship skills and not necessary for a complete and good floating as suggested. The proper and judicious use of potent pain medication (not just sedation) is in the horse's best interest and is advocating for the horse when the pain tolerance is low and the points have dug into the cheek causing significant pain.

    These points are based on 29 years and almost 50,000 floats I have done as a veterinarian - all with hand floats and drugging 1 in 10 horses.

    Please see my web site for more information. www.TheEquinePractice.com Licensed in VA


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    Another vote for Ken Pankow. I've used him since the mid-1990s on lots of different horses and he's always been great. If you haven't heard from him, he normally returns all his phone calls on Sunday evening.



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    I use Shawn Thacker and he is great. I have only had to sedate one filly in the 10 years he has been floating for me. Does a great job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Tucker DVM View Post
    VA_Hunter_Aside - The debate between vets v non-vet dentists, power v hand floating, and drugs v no drugs continues without the understanding of these main points.

    Point one - good horsemen can float most horses well and bad horsemen can't regardless of whether they have a degree or are certified by an organization.

    Point two - How power is applied to the float blade is irrelevant now; however, the technique of effectively applying the blade to the tooth is everything and power tools have no advantage over hand floating. The number of floats done and the clarity in the mind of the floater of the end result determines how well the teeth are floated.

    Point three - The use of drugs on every horse to float is the work-around for poor horsemanship skills and not necessary for a complete and good floating as suggested. The proper and judicious use of potent pain medication (not just sedation) is in the horse's best interest and is advocating for the horse when the pain tolerance is low and the points have dug into the cheek causing significant pain.

    These points are based on 29 years and almost 50,000 floats I have done as a veterinarian - all with hand floats and drugging 1 in 10 horses.

    Please see my web site for more information. www.TheEquinePractice.com Licensed in VA
    Thank you Geoff!! Your assessment makes absolute sense to me and I sincerely appreciate your input.

    To everyone who asked, Ken called me back quickly and we have set up an appointment. I will update afterwards to let you know how it went. Jeff and I played phone tag and haven't spoken yet.

    Thanks again for all your input!
    "But if you buy them as ponies aren't they cheaper?"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltopfarmva
    I use Shawn Thacker and he is great. I have only had to sedate one filly in the 10 years he has been floating for me. Does a great job.
    A second vote for him as well! Great job for us and NEVER has to drug!
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    A 3rd vote for Shawn Thacker - does a great job!



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    Thank you Dr. Tucker. My former equine dentist was trying to bully me into calling my veterinarian to waste my money tranquilizing my quiet well behaved gelding. I told her that I have ridden and cared for horses 40 years now, and could not believe that something had changed, now making it mandatory to tranquilize all horses to float their teeth. I just fired her, and will replace her with an old fashioned horse dentist.



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    I have found an old fashioned horse dentist with the help of this site! Ken Pankow 540-675-3815 just floated 3 horses no sedation, no power tools, just old fashioned skill, patience, & elbow grease.



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