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    Default UlcerGard/Gastrogard dosage

    A little help, please. I need to convert Gastrogard to Ulcergard levels. If I want my mare to get one preventive dose, using Gastrogard, and she weighs 1300 lbs., is that one-quarter tube? One-eighth? Or less?

    The back story is that I have one tube of Gastrogard at her barn. I have 200 packets of Blue Pop Rocks sitting at home, but can't get any to the barn until Thursday. I'm in my office, and need to give directions to the barn help.

    I'm not interesting in buying anything, shipping anything or trying something different. Just need a little help with the math, from someone who can actually look at a label, or who can steer me in the right direction. It's just one day.

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    One quarter tube of either ulcergard or gastrogard is the preventative dose.

    One full tube of either ulcergard or gastrogard is the treatment dose.

    The ONLY thing different about the two tubes is the labeling. They contain identical amounts of omeprazole.


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    Thanks, Simkie. For some reason I thought they were different, but I hadn't looked into it.



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    At 1300lbs, the maintenance dose is actually 1/2 tube. I can't remember if 1100 or 1200 is the cutoff where they recommend the higher dose, but if your horse is truly 1300 then she is definitely in the half-tube territory.
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    Interesting, CatPS. The package insert says over 1200.

    But the dose for prevention is 0.45 mg/lb, which would be 585 mg for a 1300 lb horse, versus the 570 mg in 1/4 of the tube.

    I never really thought about it and always treated my 1300 lb horse with 1/4 tube for prevention. Worked fine for us!



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    thanks to you both!

    I'm content to go a little light, so will ask the barn help to shove in a quarter tube. I don't think she's actually eating every single granule, either. So likely equivalent.



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    Do they really???? I thought UG was half dose of GG? Interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJenners View Post
    Do they really???? I thought UG was half dose of GG? Interesting!
    Yep. My vet said his understanding was that the regulations involved didn't want to allow them to label the same product as both preventative and curative. And GG costs more since it's prescription - he told me he couldn't get it for me at as low a price as he knew I could get UG, so use that instead.


    A 1/4 tube isn't enough for preventative for my TB which is how we developed problems - I have to give him 1/2 tube. He was estimated at 1300 lbs prior to putting on a lot of muscle, so I don't know what he would be now...
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    How often do you guys administer the preventative dose?



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    What makes GG prescription and UG not??



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    Quote Originally Posted by rlb View Post
    What makes GG prescription and UG not??
    Because of those dosing instructions.

    It's not really any difference than "prescription" ranitadine, for example, and OTC ranitadine. The dose size--the mg in the pill--is higher in the RX product. But you can easily replicate the RX dose by taking multiple pills of the OTC product.


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    Default prescription?

    Why is Gastrogard prescription and Ulcergard not??



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    Thanks... I was hoping thats all it was.. thank you!



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    Quote Originally Posted by rlb View Post
    Why is Gastrogard prescription and Ulcergard not??
    For the same reason 800mg ibuprofen is prescription only and 200mg ibuprofen is not. The OTC dosages are decided upon and regulated by the FDA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomeland View Post
    How often do you guys administer the preventative dose?
    You set the syringe dial to 1/4 tube and dispense into the mouth just like you would the treatment dose...only the dial will stop the plunger where it needs to be so that only 1/4 of the tube goes down the hatch.
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    LOL - "howoften"

    As often as necessary, ie, for the duration of bute treatment plus a couple of days, for example.
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    What are the downsides for long term use? Is it the same as a proton pump inhibitor in humans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    What are the downsides for long term use? Is it the same as a proton pump inhibitor in humans?
    Probably.
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