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  1. #3421
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBalls View Post
    You could not be further from the truth. I attend so many shows all over both schooling and AA rated... Everyone asks "How is that one bred" at least in circles I travel in. I think it's a great tribute to breeders that people are asking.
    That has not been my experience. Mine has been what Showjumper said. People might ask the breed but not the breeding.


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    If you donate to the MHS directly, you can designate your donation to go to the Gray Fox Farms case in the "notes" or use the link that BaroquePony posted above which will take you to the page that discusses the case briefly for purposes of donation. I just want to take a moment to thank all that are giving their time and/or resources to this effort as it will no doubt be a long road ahead.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBalls View Post
    You could not be further from the truth. I attend so many shows all over both schooling and AA rated... Everyone asks "How is that one bred" at least in circles I travel in. I think it's a great tribute to breeders that people are asking.
    Sorry Bill. I show up and down the east coast.Hunters and Jumpers. Rarely does anyone ask about bloodlines. They do ask about performance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by trubandloki View Post
    That has not been my experience. Mine has been what Showjumper said. People might ask the breed but not the breeding.
    Nor is it mine. But even if someone does ask, and the answer is Redwine, this mess will be long removed from the horse that YOU own, YOU show and YOU have for sale. The judges aren't going to care a whit, if they even know.

    And if the Redwines perform the way I think they will, and he gets to a good place that will use him intelligently, his career shouldn't suffer either.
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    I always ask about breeding if it's something I REALLY like. So do my friends (not breeders),,,but that said I'm sure there are plenty who don't.


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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read something today that the MHS wants any and everyone who have had problems with JB to get in touch with them. I know equinedriver was collating all that info, but fell off the face of the earth. Then, Hoof Justice took on that job. While HJ could present all that info to MHS, I wonder if they (MHS) want the information from the actual people who have been stung. I'm thinking this is a very positive turn of events. So, if you are one of the many people who have been burned by JB, contact the MHS ASAP.


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    HoofJustice works for the MHS.


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    I always ask the pedigree. Performance animal or in-hand.
    Always.
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    Because you are a breeder. Trainers don't operate from that mindset, unfortunately.
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    Looks like this is the next court date for Jill Burnell:
    www.co.marin.ca.us/depts/MC/courtcal/nameq_mc.cfm?sel_name=burnell

    Which means that Marin Humane Society will have the seized horses in their care until at least that time. The costs of the post seizure care is being born by the Humane Society. Please consider donating or bidding:

    https://www.kintera.org/site/c.aiIOI...0IaNRJdIZJpOeH

    Or donate or bid on the auction for Marin Humane Society:
    http://www.leg-up.org/marin-county-f...tion-page.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appsolute View Post
    HoofJustice works for the MHS.
    Oh, Thanks for the heads up! That's even more encouraging!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daventry View Post
    Looks like this is the next court date for Jill Burnell:
    www.co.marin.ca.us/depts/MC/courtcal/nameq_mc.cfm?sel_name=burnell
    Didn't she only have 10 days to respond to the issues regarding the unlawful living quarters and crap on her site or be fined $5000 a day? Especially the issue with the unapproved water source, this alone will hopefully do her in.


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    oh, May 31st!! That means they may get more horses if the mares startfoaling in poor conditions.
    I don't have much but I did donate to MHS. Hoping to be able to give more in a little while. They deserve our support.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NJRider View Post
    Didn't she only have 10 days to respond to the issues regarding the unlawful living quarters and crap on her site or be fined $5000 a day? Especially the issue with the unapproved water source, this alone will hopefully do her in.
    There are more than one Marin County agencies involved, now. Probably, Environmental Health Services and the Planning and Building Departments, besides the MHS.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NJRider View Post
    Didn't she only have 10 days to respond to the issues regarding the unlawful living quarters and crap on her site or be fined $5000 a day? Especially the issue with the unapproved water source, this alone will hopefully do her in.
    Yes, but that is through Marin County Development Agency, I believe. The May 31st date is in regarding the Petition for Writ of Mandate that Maggie Weems filed, stating they wanted the horses returned to Jill and for the Marin Humane Society to leave them alone unless the Humane Society has a court order. As far as I understand, the judge denied their petition and it got bumped to Superior Court?? The case number on the new court date (http://www.co.marin.ca.us/depts/MC/c...l_name=burnell) matches the case number on the Writ of Mandate found on RateMyHorsePro.com http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/equine...espondent.aspx
    www.DaventryEquestrian.com
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    With the next hearing so far off, presumably RSF will not be able to take possession of Romantic Star until after that date, if at all, and will miss this breeding season? If this whole deal is on the up & up (and I am doubtful), then I'd think she would have a case against Jill too for lost income??


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    Quote Originally Posted by COTHalter44 View Post
    With the next hearing so far off, presumably RSF will not be able to take possession of Romantic Star until after that date, if at all, and will miss this breeding season? If this whole deal is on the up & up (and I am doubtful), then I'd think she would have a case against Jill too for lost income??
    That might get a bit complicated with Ronda Stavisky and Jill Burnell having the same lawyer. I think it was [EDITED to changed it to] RateMyHorsePro.com article that reported that lawyer Maggie Weems is representing both the Stallion Owner and the Burnells.
    Last edited by Daventry; Jan. 12, 2013 at 05:21 PM. Reason: edited to change it to RateMyHorsePro.com reporting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daventry View Post
    That might get a bit complicated with Ronda Stavisky and Jill Burnell having the same lawyer. I think it was the Chronicle of the Horse article that reported that laywer Maggie Weems is representing both the Stallion Owner and the Burnells.
    I'd forgotten that little detail, good point. It's still all very suspicious to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daventry View Post
    That might get a bit complicated with Ronda Stavisky and Jill Burnell having the same lawyer. I think it was the Chronicle of the Horse article that reported that lawyer Maggie Weems is representing both the Stallion Owner and the Burnells.
    The COTH article has been updated and I'm not seeing any statement that they have the same attorney.
    Also, it makes it very clear that Rising Star is unable to get any updates from Marin County on the stallion's condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PINE TREE FARM SC View Post
    The COTH article has been updated and I'm not seeing any statement that they have the same attorney.
    Also, it makes it very clear that Rising Star is unable to get any updates from Marin County on the stallion's condition.
    That info. was included in the ratemyhorsepro article.


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