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    Default Super strange email-scam or?????

    I got this email today and thought it was so strange. Anyone else get something like this??? Do I answer or ignore? So weird....

    Dearest personnel at*Cornerstone Equestrian,*

    I am kindly asking your permission to copy some pictures of your absolutely stunning warmblood stallion 'Amazing'.

    My name is [edit], I'm 22 years old and from Finland. My hobby you might have hear of,*
    you could call it sim game playing with horse characters. Everything happens online, playing this*
    computer game together with fellow Finnish horse game players. The pictures are used simply to*
    give these*fictional horses a bit of character, to give them a look.*

    I see it my responsibility, that none of your material would be copied further from my webpage.*
    Neither would I give your pictures further to anyone else. Please inform me what you would like me*
    to write in the copyrights of the pictures, the text/link will be placed next to the picture.*
    I d want to point out, that in Finland we are very much aware of the copyright laws.

    My sim game stable's webpage adress is:http://www.raitatossu.net/solo/

    Thank you for your time, I'm looking forward to hearing from you.*

    Kindest regards,*
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    I don't think it is a scam. Sim games are big all over the world. Most of the time they just use the pics without asking permission so give her props for that.



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    Cheaper than Breyers, I guess! Seems nice she asked.

    Her webpage doesn't work, however.



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    ok, I was VERY afraid to click on anything from an email, so maybe I'll just type in the address and see what pops up
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    Her link worked for me. It is a very realistic looking sim game.



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    Looks pretty legitimate to me. Good on her for asking permission.



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    thanks! I will email her back
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    Yes! Good on her for asking! I've gotten several requests like that from Finland, Sweden and Denmark.
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    Sim games must be incredibly popular in Finland. I get similar requests often and 90% are from Finland and are also very politely worded.



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    99% of all SIM game requests do come from Finland for some strange reason

    What I find the most irritating is that someone will email me and say "I didnt know you had your stallion up for sale! And why is his price $2500.00?!"

    Some SIM games "sell" their horses and sure as shooting, someone will recognize your horse, assume its you selling it and wonder at the low price

    Or ... "Fluffy" in the SIM game who happens to be your stallion, will be sold because of unrideability issues and its "out there" that "Fluffy" (using your picture of your stallion) is unrideable and has "issues"

    Not worth it to be nice IMO ...



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    Well the same girl sent me a similar e-mail today. I did give her permission to use photos of the one mare she asked to use pics of. I took the pictures so no copyright issues and lots of these girls seem to really enjoy the game. I just ask for a link back to my website somewhere on their website in exchange.
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    Yes, and then there were the kids playing sim games who would create fifty babies for a friend's stallion and enter them into his name in the allbreed pedigree database. The horrified owner would delete them and the kid would re-enter them the next day. Change the name of existing ancestors in the pedigree database. Since these legitimate breeders were using the database for their horses and lineages, it was quite a problem. Alot of care went into trying to get the data accurate, etc. Anyway, another reason to say no.
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    I would actually appreciate the request to use the pictures! It is much better than just stealing! I'd say yes, provided she gives a link back, and add a watermark to the pictures you are allowing her to use. Might as well just add a watermark with the link to your website in all your pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartier View Post
    Many websites (including the ones we build) are right click protected, so the issue of taking photos without permission is moot.
    Just FYI, but I could get any photo I wanted off your site in less than thirty seconds, using at least two different methods. Right click disabling doesn't really protect anything or prevent someone from taking the photos if they want them.

    At least the SIM people who ask permission are also the ones who are likely to respect a "No" answer.



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    That is why professional photographers are having fits and going to a fee just to view photos on the web, because it's quit easy to take photos off of websites, even with right-clicking disabled. There isn't a program made that can stop it as of yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cartier View Post
    YES, you certainly did. (I didn't check to see the res or pixels, but it looked large enough to do something with.

    Don't know what to say. IF I were a professional photographer who made my living selling my photos, I'd probably be very discouraged about this sort of thing. Ever notice that creative productive people are the first who are willing to give/share, and pond scum users who accomplish nothing of value on planet earth are the first who are willing to take.

    I will send this on to the folks at Photocrati... and Word Press.. maybe they will tweak something...
    Unfortunately, this is a common issue and there is nothing Word Press can do it fix it. There are several ways to get pictures if one tries hard enough, disabling right-click will only prevent someone who doesn't know much about computers to get the photo. Any beginner-level web designer (most of these kids in cyber/simulated games are nowadays) can easily get photos off any website.
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    Right-click disabling is one of the most annoying things a website owner can do. I often right-click to open certain pages in new tabs. Disabling right-clicking for me means I will immediately leave the site.

    There is no way to prevent people from stealing photos. Anyone who wants to do so can either take a screengrab or use a browser plugin or view the source code of the website and find the direct link to the image.

    Also using someone else's photo without permission online isn't necessarily illegal is you use a small version of it for editorial purposes and reference where the photo came from. You can try to sue for it but it would not end in your favor most likely.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use_doctrine

    Photographer's are shooting themselves in the foot by putting their photos behind password protection. They absolutely should allow people to share and copy their photos. All they need to do it is only put up low-resolution versions that also have a prominent watermark on the image. When people repost the photos everyone will see the great photo with the watermark (if they're smart the watermark will have a URL) and look up the photographer.

    This is free advertising. Anyone who is seriously interested in purchasing a photo will do so. Those that just want to have a small copy of the photo on their facebook page aren't going to order anyways. Might as well let them advertise for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by showhorsegallery View Post
    Also using someone else's photo without permission online isn't necessarily illegal is you use a small version of it for editorial purposes and reference where the photo came from.
    I'm as much a fan of Fair Use as anyone, but using stallion photos on SIM sites would tred a very grey line there. As people have noted on this thread, it has the potential to confuse market value on the stallion and/or to dilute his reputation with false/made up info about progeny/etc. And as soon as money enters into the equation, trying to claim Fair Use gets very, very complicated.



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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyVagrant View Post
    I'm as much a fan of Fair Use as anyone, but using stallion photos on SIM sites would tred a very grey line there. As people have noted on this thread, it has the potential to confuse market value on the stallion and/or to dilute his reputation with false/made up info about progeny/etc. And as soon as money enters into the equation, trying to claim Fair Use gets very, very complicated.
    Agreed, that does not fall under the fair use doctrine. I was just speaking about using photos in general.



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