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    Default himalayan cats

    My understanding - they are long haired persian type cats with a siamese colouring. So, someone was advertising quite vivid orange tabby and calico as pure himalayn. Is this even credible?



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    Nope. As I understand it the siamese coloring is a recessive so two pointed cats will always produce pointed cats. Are the cats pedigreed?



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    Sounds like a bit of a strech. Purebred himalayans would only have the Siamese coloring pattern.

    Although lovely cats, the two I owned were extremely stupid, I am sorry to say.



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    A very close friend of mine bred Himalayan cats for many years. The basic gist is that they're pretty much long-haired cats with Siamese coloring. Body type is like the Persian - relatively stocky with the rather flat, pushed-in facial structure; coloring is same as Siamese - paler body color; darker "points" (face, ears, legs, tail), & blue eyes. They come in all the point colors of Siamese - Seal, Chocolate, Blue, Lynx (tabby). If the cat isn't colored this way, it ain't a purebred Himalayan.

    If I remember correctly, my friend had Blue Points, Chocolate Points, & Orange Lynx Points. They were absolutely gorgeous cats, but the grooming to keep them in shape was a constant task, & frankly I found them kind of on the snooty side personality-wise.



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    Flame point is a Himalayan color and is orange, so it depends on what they are calling vivid orange tabby. I used to own a flame point Himalayan and I believe the pattern can vary on lesser quality cats.
    Rhode Islands are red;
    North Hollands are blue.
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    Thanks! You're right, RacetrackReject - they WERE "Flame Point". The correct name escaped me.

    To the OP - if the cats are point-colored like Siamese, then they "could" be purebred Himalayans. If they're solid-colored cats - they're not.



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    Based on the photos, I would say they are not purebred then.



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    This may be ancient history as I bred and showed himmies 20 years ago! BUT, the ACFA (American Cat Fanciers Association) did recognize solid color cats as himmies IF they carried the pointed gene. So, one parent had to be a himalayan marked cat.

    In the CFA, the solids, even if they carried the pointed gene, were shown as persians. So my lovely black male, was shown as a himmie in ACFA and a persian in CFA. His sire was a solid blue and his dam was a seal point and he produced about 50% pointed kittens when he was bred. I have seen red tabby himmies but not calico. But, again, it has been a while since I have been to a cat show.
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    ^ This

    I'd assume you were looking at kittens from a "backyard breeder" rather than a knowledgeable breeder who shows etc - but if you're looking for a pet, then temperament is rather more relevant than color



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