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  1. #1
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    Default I'll Have Another sold to Japan

    I'll Have Another will be heading to his new home in Aug.

    Reddam said that the prices offered from Japanese groups were way higher than offers from Ky farms.

    So, it happens. Another good 3 year old leaves us.

    I am not too upset because I think he will get better mares over there. But I dislike Reddam even more now after all of his protestations about his love for the horse and how he was only concerned for the horse's well being.
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    Hoping like mad he doesn't end up like Ferdinand!



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    I hope he performs and dies of natural causes before he stops performing. I hope this is the last horse Reddam owns too - his true colors are showing. If it's about money, just say so, but don't lie and say it's about the IHA's well-being just to win fans' sentimentality....obviously he played that hand well.



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    Good grief, you'd think the Japanese were heathens the way you people talk about them. And you'd think Reddam was the only person who ever sold a horse to the Japanese. Japan has some of the best bred horses in the world; how do you think they got them?



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    Wherever he goes there, he will be well kept and happy. I've been to horse facilities there and "luxury" doesn't begin to describe the conditions. He'll be fine. Would have loved to see him in Kentucky though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    Good grief, you'd think the Japanese were heathens the way you people talk about them. And you'd think Reddam was the only person who ever sold a horse to the Japanese. Japan has some of the best bred horses in the world; how do you think they got them?
    Exactly. It makes me nuts to when people see Japan and automatically it's "He's going to slaughter!!! He iz a dead horsie!! ZOMG." Puh-lease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyBobbyMagee View Post
    Exactly. It makes me nuts to when people see Japan and automatically it's "He's going to slaughter!!! He iz a dead horsie!! ZOMG." Puh-lease.
    Seriously. Look at the care given Sunday Silence. They tried everything to save that horse.



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    Look at this horrible run down farm he's going to. Despicable!!

    http://www.bigredfarm.jp/e_index.html



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    I think that it is more of a sad commentary that the stud farms in KY had such little interest. He certainly had stamina and a decent turn of foot..With the amount of money it takes to buy, train, vet etc racehorses I do not blame the man for wanting to sell him for a decent price. He has plenty of other horses besides IHA to maintain. Many stallions in Japan are treated like royalty. The situation with Ferdinand was tragic, as well as Exceller in Europe. It hardly means that every horse over in those respective countries meets an unfortunate end. Many owners now have a send back clause when the stallions career comes to a conclusion. I think it is extremely bigoted to assume that IHA will meet a tragic fate.



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    It's not bigoted - that's a stretch, and rude to insinuate that. Japan doesn't have the land that we have to retire horses - they do slip through and get slaughtered there because it's practical. Just because a previous owner has a buy-back option doesn't mean he will.

    What is lacking in horse racing is loyalty to fans. Can you imagine for one minute if our pro football/basketball/baseball players were traded to other countries?

    If the industry wants fans to fawn over these athletes, buy tickets, place bets, buy merchandise, then keep them here. I don't care what country he's going to. It's unfair to the fans that his dust has hardly settled from his last race and he's hopping a plane to live with the highest bidder - who happens to be in a foreign country. Hey Thanks.. You can argue that he'll be well cared for but he won't be HERE, where we love him.

    Personally, as a fan who visits tracks and especially KY to see the horses....I HATE it when they leave. Right or wrong, it's just the way I feel.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Japanese Horse Eater View Post
    Wow, this is wonderful news!!
    I am DYING laughing. Whoever you are, you have a wicked and sharp sense of humor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    Good grief, you'd think the Japanese were heathens the way you people talk about them. And you'd think Reddam was the only person who ever sold a horse to the Japanese. Japan has some of the best bred horses in the world; how do you think they got them?
    Thank you! I have a friend (in "the business")who goes to Japan every year to visit the farms, and the tracks. She has nothing but praise for their operations. IHA will be in the best company with Conduit, Agnes Digital and Roses in May, among others.
    AND, Reddam has made it clear in more than one interview that he's not in the breeding business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Spot View Post
    I am DYING laughing. Whoever you are, you have a wicked and sharp sense of humor.
    One person comes to mind: Paul Williamson.



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    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    Good grief, you'd think the Japanese were heathens the way you people talk about them. And you'd think Reddam was the only person who ever sold a horse to the Japanese. Japan has some of the best bred horses in the world; how do you think they got them?
    This is spades I can't tell you the number of times I"ve seen in linked today on FB with outcrys of OMG its all about the money ..hes going to be eaten. Of course its about the money horse racing is a business. He was retired from racing just what else was a non breeding owner going to do with him ..keep him in the back yard and pet him and stuff

    The farm he was sold to has a good reputation and stood Sunday Silence and took AMAZING care of him right until the end. I can't believe that so many of the people I call friends can be so short sighted to the point of being bigoted.
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    It is a beautiful farm and I am sure IHA will be well cared for. It is just too bad he could not stay in the US. But, as we all know, horse racing is, first and foremost, a business and like any business, money talks and bullshit walks. I think it is just a bit sad that he will be in Japan.



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    Quote Originally Posted by hundredacres View Post
    It's not bigoted - that's a stretch, and rude to insinuate that. Japan doesn't have the land that we have to retire horses - they do slip through and get slaughtered there because it's practical. Just because a previous owner has a buy-back option doesn't mean he will.
    I totally agree, he should stay in America where we don't slaughter our racehorses!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by alspharmd View Post
    I totally agree, he should stay in America where we don't slaughter our racehorses!!

    LMAO you totally owe me a new computer screen!
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    Good for him to go some place where they may value his particular bloodlines. All during the TC campaign a lot of people seemed to scoff at his breeding, and it was certainly apparent that he would probably not bring much of a value at stud here However, his particular bloodlines may be just what the Japanese are looking for, and I'm sure he will be better off where he can be valued.

    As far as the money goes, right now is when his potential price is probably at its highest (unless several years down the road he sires a huge percentage of winners). Why not let his non-breeding owner capitalize on that small window of opportunity open to him right now?

    Let's remember that probably no US breeding farm would have gone to the great lengths that the Japanese went to with War Emblem with his "peculiar tastes" in mares and the whole breeding biz. BTW, is War Emblem breeding anything over there at all?

    Also, we should remember that in Ferdinand's case he went through several owners out from the stallion station before he was slaughtered. And I think it was a great blow to Japanese pride when the whole story came out--the original owners in Japan probably didn't know about it either. I think this makes it far more unlikely that the same thing would happen to IHA.

    Let's just hope that the undisclosed purchase price turns out to be the buy of the century and he does well at stud.



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    Quote Originally Posted by betonbill View Post
    Good for him to go some place where they may value his particular bloodlines. All during the TC campaign a lot of people seemed to scoff at his breeding, and it was certainly apparent that he would probably not bring much of a value at stud here However, his particular bloodlines may be just what the Japanese are looking for, and I'm sure he will be better off where he can be valued.

    As far as the money goes, right now is when his potential price is probably at its highest (unless several years down the road he sires a huge percentage of winners). Why not let his non-breeding owner capitalize on that small window of opportunity open to him right now?

    Let's remember that probably no US breeding farm would have gone to the great lengths that the Japanese went to with War Emblem with his "peculiar tastes" in mares and the whole breeding biz. BTW, is War Emblem breeding anything over there at all?

    Also, we should remember that in Ferdinand's case he went through several owners out from the stallion station before he was slaughtered. And I think it was a great blow to Japanese pride when the whole story came out--the original owners in Japan probably didn't know about it either. I think this makes it far more unlikely that the same thing would happen to IHA.

    Let's just hope that the undisclosed purchase price turns out to be the buy of the century and he does well at stud.
    Well said. Everytime someone brings up the unfortunate Ferdinand story I think the same thing. The stud farm attempted to place him somewhere else ..so they clearly valued his life. It was the somewhere else that dumped him with the horse dealer. Further more if he was so valued and loved why did his previous owners or everyone one of the fans who gasped in horror at his fat attempt to keep tabs on him and realize his stud career was a flop and he might be in jeopardy.

    Until no ex racers are on that truck headed for processing we are a country full of hypocrites to be shocked that another animal met the same fate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halo View Post
    Look at this horrible run down farm he's going to. Despicable!!

    http://www.bigredfarm.jp/e_index.html



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