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    Default New Yorker Article: "Do We Have to Cheer for Ann Romney at the Olympics?"

    Looks like we have some choices to make besides voting this year, based on the latest analysis from the media. Dressage - the new hot topic at all the fashionable parties! Are you a "red" rider or a "blue" rider?

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...nn-romney.html

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    Ann Romney’s involvement in the Olympics, though, raises some questions beyond the obvious ones suggested by a sport that is pursued at its upper levels, or played, primarily by the wealthy and their retainers. What does it mean for the wife of a Presidential candidate to be personally represented at the Olympics, if not actually on the field representing our country? In a month and a bit, when the Games open, we may find that it complicates our cheering obligations, tainting or heightening the mix of vague patriotism and keen commercialism that constitute the Olympic spirit, and make it fun. We’ll also see, soon enough, if the Games offer an opportunity for Romney or, for that matter, for Obama. Do we have to cheer for Ann? Does Romney get to accuse Obama of a lack of patriotism if we don’t?
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    Wow. I'm starting to feel sorry for Rafalca. Imagine having to carry all this weight on her back in addition to her rider. Poor thing.



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    Geez Louise, enough already!! The sport can only be politicized if we the people allow it to be. Here's one "blue to the bone" individual who will be proudly cheering on OUR Olympic team.

    I don't feel sorry for Rafalca as she is blissfully unaware of all this nonsense.



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    Quote Originally Posted by atlatl View Post
    Geez Louise, enough already!! The sport can only be politicized if we the people allow it to be. Here's one "blue to the bone" individual who will be proudly cheering on OUR Olympic team.
    Yeah, isn't that what the Olympics are all about? Everybody coming together to root against the Dutch?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiannonjk View Post
    Yeah, isn't that what the Olympics are all about? Everybody coming together to root against the Dutch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiannonjk View Post
    Yeah, isn't that what the Olympics are all about? Everybody coming together to root against the Dutch?



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    I hope that quote doesn't get to Holland, where I'm vacationing this summer to see a dear friend.



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    You should cheer for Team USA. Our TEAM. Those who have been chosen to represent the base of dressage in our country - and that means you, too. I am sure Jan would prefer to not have all this hoopla, but can't you cheer for him? For his TEAM members?

    There are princes, princesses, dukes and duchesses that compete in our sport from other countries. But this is America. Where people like Michelle Gibson and Sue Blinks who came from modest means, work their butts off, treat wealthy sponsors with respect and results, and then be rewarded with international recognition.

    Cheer for the opportunity that all the sponsors and owners have offered the good citizens of the USA, to represent the country they love as much as you do.



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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenrow View Post
    You should cheer for Team USA. Our TEAM. Those who have been chosen to represent the base of dressage in our country - and that means you, too. I am sure Jan would prefer to not have all this hoopla, but can't you cheer for him? For his TEAM members?
    Don't know if this was intended in response to my comment, so just in case it was, that is exactly what I meant by OUR team => Team USA



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    This is so effing ridiculous. Can't we leave politics out of SOMETHING? Or are we as Americans so childish and immature and petty? I for one am sick to death of being PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiannonjk View Post
    Yeah, isn't that what the Olympics are all about? Everybody coming together to root against the Dutch?
    Yes!



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    Quote Originally Posted by atlatl View Post
    Geez Louise, enough already!! The sport can only be politicized if we the people allow it to be. Here's one "blue to the bone" individual who will be proudly cheering on OUR Olympic team.
    I agree! And lets remember, it's not "the media", as if the media is one entity. It's ONE PERSON who blogs for the New Yorker.

    That said, the sport does indeed have the reputation for being elitist because a) in one respect, it is elitist-lets be honest here b) people don't know much about how much strength it takes to work at the highest levels-the horses and riders make it look easy and c) people don't know that non-wealthy people participate on horses of all breeds.

    Of course, writing controversial blogs gets lots of traffic to your website...
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonriverfarm View Post
    This is so effing ridiculous. Can't we leave politics out of SOMETHING? Or are we as Americans so childish and immature and petty? I for one am sick to death of being PC.

    agree



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    It's so ironic - I am a staunch Obama supporter, but these articles about Ann Romney, the Colbert report spoof, and the Romney camp's good natured response to all of that have actually made me like him a little better.

    And the media's understanding and interpretation of dressage has been fascinating, to say the least. Good for dressage that it gets a bit more exposure. And those of us toiling in the trenches to get past training level have had a great opportunity to reply that it isn't just for the elites.

    So interesting but will probably have *zero* effect on the race!



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    Steven Colbert's reporting was light hearted and in jest. And his follow up really won me over.

    The dipsh*t on MSNBC should be ashamed of his reporting..going after AR's MS as part of his dribble.

    Personally I'm tired of hearing about how this is a sport for the wealthy...Well, duh....let's see what sport isn't expensive? Golf, ice skating, gymnastics. Heck, one of my students spent over 3K on her Irish Dancing dress (it was rather beautiful). I'm sure many politicans are members of elite golf clubs where they spend 50K or more on an initial membership fee.......so really, what is the big deal about this sport being expensive?



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    Quote Originally Posted by oldernewbie View Post
    It's so ironic - I am a staunch Obama supporter, but these articles about Ann Romney, the Colbert report spoof, and the Romney camp's good natured response to all of that have actually made me like him a little better.

    And the media's understanding and interpretation of dressage has been fascinating, to say the least. Good for dressage that it gets a bit more exposure. And those of us toiling in the trenches to get past training level have had a great opportunity to reply that it isn't just for the elites.

    So interesting but will probably have *zero* effect on the race!
    Ditto. It's ALL good for dressage and it's ALL good for the Olympics and we'll ALL cheer for our team (though I do like the Dutch, that orange is a bit much.)



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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Lu View Post
    It's ONE PERSON who blogs for the New Yorker.
    And a person who couldn't even be bothered getting the horse's gender right. That's pretty basic information to mess up.



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    It is difficult for some people to separate out separate issues.
    They live life like the worst quote from Dirty Dancing: "If you love me, you have to love all the things about me."

    No. It is possible to like some things and not others about another person's beliefs or things that they do. You can hate the sin, but still love the sinner. You can hate that a particular person is prejudiced/racist/classist/another political party/whatever but still think they made a pretty good dad/spouse/mom/sibling over all, and you can seriously disagree with their politics but still root for their horse in the Olympics.


    We can get into where the line crosses over too far into moral relativism as a separate philosophical point, but in general, just because Dirty Dancing has one ridiculous quote does not mean it still isn't one of the greatest movies of all time.

    So will I vote for Mitt? No.
    But I'm perfectly happy to root for the horse, AND for Anne and Mitt* as her owners.

    *Yes I know he isn't officially listed as owner. But as far as I understand he pays the bills so I'm counting him, too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by oldernewbie View Post
    It's so ironic - I am a staunch Obama supporter, but these articles about Ann Romney, the Colbert report spoof, and the Romney camp's good natured response to all of that have actually made me like him a little better.
    Just FYI: this is what it's like to be a Republican ALL THE TIME. It's just so happened this time it's horse things, so people who would normally take everything said about rich conservatives at face value go 'wait a minute.'

    I'd personally have to literally have a gun to my head to vote for Obama (heck, I'd even vote for Ron Paul and the Tinfoil Hat Brigade first), but I've never based who I rooted for at the Olympics on their political, financial, or any other connections! (Heck, sometimes I cheer for people WHO AREN'T EVEN AMERICAN OMG...) I like how the blogger even coyly suggests that Romney might call Obama unamerican if he doesn't root for Ann's horse. Nice touch.

    Fortunately horses don't read the New Yorker. (Their rear ends appear to write for it, though...)



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    Danceronice, the article does go on to say this:

    "None of this is Rafalca’s fault. The horse is on our team, as Americans. It would be churlish, knowing nothing else about horses—and let’s admit that most of us don’t—to boo him."



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