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  1. #361
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    I want to forget the return to the airport flight. That right there has made me un easy about things. nothing is worse than being airborn and hearing your piolet say we are being orderd to return to Sea Tac and then feeling the plane just bank it and a then experience a verry uncomforting landing. When I found out about the NY situation a man yelled it out loud and most of us thought he was crazy. I rember walking off my flight back into Seattle and feeling this eary numb feeling come over me. the air port was a skairy silence while people swarmed around the TV's You could feel the tension around and you could feel the panick come over you. I stood there looking at the TV and still had no clue what went on. The first thing I did was head to Northwest to have them infourm Joost that I was badk in and that he needed to find me. Then the calls pured in to my cell and I knew that this was not some dream but real and that I wasn't just on the plane dreaming this. I wish I was though. I still have a hard time watching the news cause so many times I was there. The first thing I did after the attack and I notified everyone I was safe, was to call everyne I knew who worked in the towers to make sure they were safe. Everyone I personaly know made it but what if there was someone I once knew that worked in the towers????

    Now I sit here and altough it is 5 days passed Im still numb. Sleep was very little for both Joost and I and I thought to myself how lucky that nither of us were on those flights. But would something go wrong for either of us today? We are not the only country that is frightend and hearing the fear from just his family and friends who call it made this whole situation more upsetting. We are Lucky to have such a devoted nation and at the same time the help of countrys around. I heard this and am not sure were exactly but it stuck.... " this horrible tragedy might not bring us another WW3 but instead world peace cause for once in our history so many countrys at once stand vigial uniteing us all." One man brought tragedy to us but at the same time he didn't judt hit the heart of America but the heart of the world and we are verry lucky to have the suport we do. I recieved the following from a friend of mine today and would like to pass it on...

    An open letter to a terrorist:

    Well, you hit the World Trade Center, but you missed America. You hit the
    Pentagon, but you missed America. You used helpless American bodies, to take
    out other American bodies, but like a poor marksman, you STILL missed
    America.

    Why? Because of something you guys will never understand. America isn�t
    about a building or two, not about financial centers, not about military
    centers, America isn�t about a place, America isn�t even about a bunch of
    bodies. America is about an IDEA. An idea, that you can go someplace where
    you can earn as much as you can figure out how to, live for the most part,
    like you envisioned living, and pursue Happiness. (No guarantees that you�ll
    reach it, but you can sure try!)

    Go ahead and whine your terrorist whine, and chant your terrorist litany:
    If you can not see my point, then feel my pain.

    This concept is alien to Americans. We live in a country where we don�t have
    to see your point. But you�re free to have one. We don�t have to listen to
    your speech. But you�re free to say one. Don�t know where you got the
    strange idea that everyone has to agree with you. We don�t agree with each
    other in this country, almost as a matter of pride. We�re a collection of
    guys that don�t agree, called States. We united our individual states to
    protect ourselves from tyranny in the world. Another idea, we made up on the
    spot. You CAN make it up as you go, when it�s your country.

    If you�re free enough.

    Yeah, we�re fat, sloppy, easy-going goofs most of the time. That�s an
    unfortunate image to project to the world, but it comes of feeling free and
    easy about the world you live in. It�s unfortunate too, because people start
    to forget that when you attack Americans, they tend to fight like a cornered
    badger. The first we knew of the War of 1812, was when England burned
    Washington D.C. to the ground. Didn�t turn out like England thought it was
    going to, and it�s not going to turn out like you think, either. Sorry, but
    you�re not the first bully on our shores, just the most recent.

    No Marquis of Queensbury rules for Americans, either. We were the FIRST and
    so far, only country in the world to use nuclear weapons in anger. Horrific
    idea, nowadays? News for you bucko, it was back then too, but we used it
    anyway. Only had two of them in the whole world and we used �em both.
    Grandpa Jones worked on the Manhattan Project. Told me once, that right up
    until they threw the switch, the physicists were still arguing over whether
    the Uranium alone would fission, or whether it would start a fissioning
    chain reaction that would eat everything. But they threw the switch anyway,
    because we had a War to win. Does that tell you something about American
    Resolve?

    So who just declared War on us? It would be nice to point to some real
    estate, like the good old days. Unfortunately, we�re probably at war with
    random camps, in far-flung places. Who think they�re safe. Just like the
    Barbary Pirates did, IIRC. Better start sleeping with one eye open.

    There�s a spirit that tends to take over people who come to this country,
    looking for opportunity, looking for liberty, looking for freedom. Even if
    they misuse it. The Marielistas that Castro emptied
    out of his prisons, were overjoyed to find out how much freedom there was.
    First thing they did when they hit our shores, was run out and buy guns. The
    ones that didn�t end up dead, ended up in prisons. It was a big PITA then
    (especially in south Florida), but you�re only the newest PITA, not the
    first.

    You guys seem to be incapable of understanding that we don�t live in
    America, America lives in US! American Spirit is what it�s called. And
    killing a few thousand of us, or a few million of us, won�t change it. Most
    of the time, it�s a pretty happy-go-lucky kind of Spirit. Until we�re
    crossed in a cowardly manner, then it becomes an entirely different kind of
    Spirit.

    Wait until you see what we do with that Spirit, this time.
    \"I\'m going to go see a horse about a man\" - Unknown



  2. #362
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    Coming back with

    > IF THIS IS A TRUE ACCOUNT OF ANOTHER'S PERSPECTIVE ON AMERICA, I AM IN
    AWE.........
    This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
    America: The Good Neighbor.
    Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a
    remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a
    Canadian television commentator.
    What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the
    Congressional Record:
    "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the
    most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the
    earth.
    Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted
    out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of
    dollars and forgave other billions in debts.
    None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its
    remaining debts to the United States.
    When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans
    ; who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on
    the streets of Paris. I was there.
    I saw it.
    When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that
    hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened
    by tornadoes. Nobody helped.
    The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into
    discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing
    about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
    I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the
    erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane.
    Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing
    Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
    If so, why don't they fly them?
    Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?
    Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on
    the moon?
    You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios.
    You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.
    You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon-not
    once, but several times-and safely home again.
    You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store
    window for everybody to look at.
    Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on
    our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws,
    are getting American dollars
    from ma and pa at home to spend here.
    When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down
    through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them.
    When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke,
    nobody loaned them an old caboose.
    Both are still broke.
    I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other
    people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced
    to the Americans in
    trouble?
    I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco
    earthquake.
    Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned
    tired of hearing them get kicked
    around.
    They will come out of this thing with their flag high.
    And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands
    that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one
    of those."
    Stand proud, America!
    I would hope that each of you would send this to as many people as you
    can and emphasize that they should send it to as many of their friends
    until this letter is sent to every person on the web.
    a copy and paste...

    Betsy
    Lead, follow, or get out of the way...
    The thing about smart people, is they look like crazy people, to dumb people.


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  3. #363
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kryswyn:
    War _is_ terrible. That's what makes it a thing to be avoided. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    A price is paid by someone or many someones when a nation goes to war. And it is a terrible event and this particular war is going to cause many to lose their lives which saddens me no end,

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>My parents fought in WWII. My oldest brothers were involved in the Viet Nam War; the youngest had a low draft number and signed up for the Navy making it a career for almost 30 years now. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    My father was a naval aviator for 30 some odd years. He never went to Vietnam so the horrors of being on the front lines are not ingrained in his memories. My father in law was involved on the front lines of World War II. Listening to both men, I hear the same goals with different perspectives.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>He's fresh out of boot camp, and I can tell you this - right now he is so glad that when the President gives the order, he will be in a position to defend this country.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    My 12 year old son desparately wants to join up and fight for his country. As his mother, I don't like the idea, but as an American, I understand the reasons why. He is convinced the special forces such as the Navy Seals and Green Berets will be the ones to smoke out those who are behind the atrocities.

    There are so many opinions and ideas out there which, thankfully, are allowed to be said without fear of retribution, regarding how America should go forward to rid the world of terrorism. I have adopted the wait and see attitude and have kept myself informed by reading interviews and other news articles about the players in this.

    After watching the Vice President, Dick Cheney, yesterday, I have come to the conclusion, he is one tough/smart s.o.b. (and I mean that in the kindest sense of the word). No doubt in my mind that with Cheney and Powell (despite past stuff)--those 2 will determine the fate of those who committed the attacks.

    I did not lose anyone last Tuesday, but I came close for my lawyer friend could have been in the federal courthouse. I found her later online and the sense of relief was overwhelming.

    I am still headed to Europe on Oct 17, I cannot let someone else control or determine my life's destinations.



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    Thought I'd pass on this story, especially since it does have its "horse-related" content. It's true, although told to me 3rd hand.

    I rode in a Captain Mark Phillips clinic in Michigan this past weekend. After talking to the farm owner, neither he nor Capt. Phillips wanted to cancel the clinic because of terrorist attacks... but rather wanted to hold it... basically a symbol that we will go on and get stronger. Anyway, evidently on Tuesday morning, Mark was ON a flight from London to Boston when the WTC was hit. The story went on to say that the pilot called him to the cockpit. Knowing he had military experience, our own coach of the Olympic team was requested to stay in the cockpit and, with an axe that is kept on board, make sure NO ONE got through that door as they were diverted to Greenland. Pretty spooky.

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