I hope nobody is permanently banned over this stuff.
While I do think that the application of the wicked sense of humor was in the wrong place at the wrong time, I would miss that wicked sense of humor.
I do wish that more people would do as I try to do when angry....type up a post, then don't post it. Almost as gratifying as posting the troublemaking thoughts.
I've even gone back and deleted posts from contentious threads because I decided I didn't want to be associated with the nastiness. (Remember that "Having Kids" thread that should have been titled "Hating Kids"?).
I like the boards, like the community, like meeting all the new friends in person, but this whole "time and place for everything" that the moderators are attempting to do, is a topic I routinely work on with my son...who happens to have a wicked sense of humor (wonder where he got that one???) and occassionally gets in trouble for it. I'm seriously hoping that he'll learn that stuff.
I can be VERY catty, but I try to reserve that for a few select people who understand and appreciate the humor/venting and would never take it seriously or be hurt by it and more importantly hopefully won't ever use that venting to hurt the person being vented about.
For the sake of full disclosure... my email to Colin, and other BBers whose names have been removed because they're not nearly in her league:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Let me make one thing clear... if you don't like
something on the BB, you have two options. One, bring
your concerns up to the moderators and try to bring
about change. Two, leave.
Griping like spoiled children on the BB because you're
not getting YOUR way is not one of the options.
NOT ONE PERSON emailed me asking the baby Aiden
threads to be curtailed. Not one. Certainly not any of
you. Someone posted about it (in a nice way) a few
weeks ago, after which I asked people to confine their
comments to a few threads. I have no problem in doing
that, and totally agree that the threads should be
minimized. At this time, there are three threads on
the first page of Off Course. Three out of 50. Surely
you all are capable of skipping three threads that
CLEARLY say what they're about in the title.
If you had a concern, you could have emailed me, or
you could have started a constructive discussion
(although I'm not sure those words are in Betsy's
vocabulary) on the BB, and there would have been no
problem with that at all. Instead, you chose to be
snotty about it... so don't complain that you're not
being treated fairly, or that you're not being allowed
to voice your opinion. The delivery, not the opinion
itself, is the problem here.
I have been MORE than accomadating of all of your
antics over the years. Betsy, I had to convince the
other moderators to allow you back on the BB at all...
no one else wanted to give you a second chance. [Name deleted],
I have deleted your multiple alters on multiple
occasions -- after you promised me you would have no
more than one -- and done nothing more than provide a
cheerful scolding. And you're still allowed to
participate on the BB, even after violating the
"edict" on multiple occasions.
I'm sick of it. I'm sick of having to treat grown
adults like kindergarteners. You either can live with
things the way they are, or you can't. If you can't,
I don't know any of you very well, but never had any
strong opinion about you either way until now. I
cannot even begin to politely express how totally
repugnant I think your behavior is.
If you want to stay on the BB and participate in a
constructive way, you are totally welcome to do so. If
you want to leave, you are totally welcome to do so.
But to be honest, I don't think I care to ever "speak"
directly to any of you ever again. Kindly do me a
favor and "lose" my email address...
Wha?? He's not??? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img]
I think I need to join the Out Of The Loop clique. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
"We can talk...or not talk...for hours, and still find things to not talk about!"
Book: If you take advantage of her, you\'re going to burn in a very special level of Hell, a level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater. Firefly
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Quinn:
Colin, on the other hand, shows a frightening lack of compassion, intellect, diplomacy and grace. Her attacks are vicious and quite simply not acceptable to the VAST MAJORITY on these boards. I for one do not ever wish to see her name.
"If you are going through hell, keep going." ~Churchill~<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Because you don't agree with how or what she posts? I don't always agree but she says how she feels. And perhaps how the other "vast majority" of the board feels.
People were pretty afraid to speak their mind after watching Hobson get roasted for having the audasity to point out that it was inappropriate for Baby Aiden to have his picture posted without a helmet on. I think Colin just got the ball rolling. Sorry you disagree.
*Be grateful for luck. Pay the thunder no mind---listen to the birds. And don't hate nobody." -Eubie Blake*
I'd like to think I feel free to speak my mind. I've disagreed. But....
There is just such a thing as TACT and diplomacy. Some of those comments (liver sizes, BARF etc.) were completely unnecessary and did NOTHING more to further the posters point than to create animosity. A really, really lousy way to effect any sort of change is to alienate the people you are trying to sway.
Who the heck is Jair anyway!? ha ha ha, that is too funny. After all is said and done, I hope that everyone will realize how deeply the Hawks' feelings were hurt by these threads and, to that end, that is what really bothers me the most. I always hear how 'horse people' are crazy, a strange bunch, etc. and now to whoever reads these threads, their point is proven correct!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Miniwelsh:
People were pretty afraid to speak their mind after watching Hobson get roasted for having the audasity to point out that it was inappropriate for Baby Aiden to have his picture posted without a helmet on. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh, come on. That whole thing was silly. His dad was holding onto him for crying out loud..
Robby hear hear! This is a internet bulletin board people. Maybe I don't notice every little slight or feud, but that's because, frankly, I don't keep tabs on who is in every little clique because IT'S A BULLETIN BOARD and I have a REAL LIFE. Maybe we should all just practice our ignoring skills for a while.
Having said that, what do you mean Jair's not real??.. seriously??? damn I am out of the loop.. And sad [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img] I liked Jair.
and btw that's not directed at any particular "group". I feel many inappropriate comments and unsubstantiated blanket character judgements have been made by, oh, lots of people. If anyone wants to disagree with me and claim that, no their group is totally correct and the others are commie pinkos/bleeding hearts/evil gnomes don't bother, you will be thoroughly ignored [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]
Proud owner of one Lunar acre! (Campanus Crater, The Moon)
While I admit I didn't see any of the posts by Jair and others who apparently flamed out, I did see the one by Miniwelsh and did not see anything wrong with it. I believe she stated her opinions very clearly and was not in the least bit offensive. If anyone took it that way, it was the subject matter they disagreed with and NOT the format of her reply.
Instead of all getting along (which would be as boring as dry, white toast), why can't we just disagree sometimes and get a little hot under the collar, but then get past it and get on with our lives when the discussion has reached an end? What is so wrong with that?
It's all about ME, ME, ME!!! (The only signature worthy of a real DQ.)
I agree with Robby, time to let all this ugliness go. This topic stewed on long enough and it's starting to become putrid. Robby! The voice of reason! LOVE YOU! Where are the Rhodey updates fer cryin' out loud!? I myself have an exquisite OTTB and I find your threads on the subject most helpful as sometimes we have the same issues! (Oops, maybe that should be a new topic?)
Given all the OT threads that populate this BB, our (respective and collective) participation in threads that diverge and careen into something which bears little resemblance to its original content and intent, (Beaver Drilling, for example, comes to mind), why ever would someone make it their personal mission to, effectively, vent their vehement, offended spleen on a fundraiser designed to save and help the life of a baby? Because the thread isn't horse-related? Please. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
It's odd that the very people who delight in derailing strictly horse-related threads are the very same who are now opposed to the collective concern for a baby; especially when the 'solution' to the problem is a really simple one. Don't read it. Skip it. Post something to satisfy your need to discuss strictly horse related issues and concerns.
I suspect there's an underlying issue at the root of this - because, whatever, the assertion, I don't believe it's concern that the Aiden threads are somehow not related to horses. Perhaps it's discontent that the BB no longer revolves around a certain clique, perhaps it's a response to the paradigm shift that's taken place on the BB over the course of the last year, or maybe it's the recognition that the BB no longer serves as one's own personal playground.
Frankly, I don't care about what motivates those of you who've assumed such a vehement stance on this issue. I do care, though, that the vast majority of the people on this BB have proven themselves to be utterly, gracefully, awesomely generous and compassionate.
I'm the first to admit that I'll swoop in for a bite as soon as the rest of you knock someone down....
However - I don't think anyone has the right as posters on this board to ATTACK someone or something in a truly demeaning way. I try to poke fun of the 'fanged ones' (you know who you are), but, wow, Colin's statements lately have been out of line entirely.
I do think there has been a general air of 'meanness' circulating around the board lately. We've all commented on it. Let's do something about it and make this place fun and interesting, not scary and sad. Ignore the meanies! Ignore the meanies! If we don't feed the trolls....they won't come back.
(oh - and kudos to Robby and Goodyfourshoes - I liked how you stated yourselves)