[myrna]

Hate.

the fly mask with ears......when(not if) a fly gets inside,it drives the poor horse crazy.

mm

[3dazey]

Love this topic!

Have just 3 to add...

LOVE...

Nolvasan cream (can this still be found for sale?)
Poly pads
Keratex hoof hardener (saved my TB's career & I am a sane person again!)

[NRB]

Arait WORK boots,

The Cascades have lasted 2 plus years so far of riding, mucking, and washing horses (on a somewhay daily basis, 5 to 6 days a week). Interesting to hear that the paddock boots don't have a good rep.

Cowboy Magic detangler
for tails has been awsome.

The Versallies Breeches from Devon Aire have held up fine for me.

[Ghazzu]

Derma-Gel wound ointment.
Actually works.

[Portia]

Loves:

Eskadron Open Front Gel Boots -- provide support and protection, go on and off super easily, and you can throw them in the washer. Some of the new copies probably work just as well. (Dover)

Lende Shipping Boots -- safe, stay in place, easy to use, and durable. I've had mine for 6 or 7 years now. I saw these boots save a mare who got hung up in a trailer and kicked the partition down. She was cut up like hell on the flesh above the boots, but all the important stuff in her lower legs and hocks were protected. (Dover and other places)

Fungidye -- for thrush and skin fungus. It kills the bacteria without killing the healthy tissue. You can get it from Jeffers and some other places.
Jeffers -- Fungidye

Miracle Mist with Tea Tree Oil (anywhere)

Eqyss Micro-Tek (anywhere)

Cowboy Magic Detangler (anywhere)

Web-rubber reins (Dover or Courbette)

My relatively new Albion Kontrol jumping saddle

Sprenger jointed stirrup irons -- I have a bad knee and they let me ride with my stirrups short enough (anywhere)

Trevira Cord Girth (from Dover and probably other places) -- inexpensive ($16.70 at Dover) comfortable, does not chafe, can't be overtightened, throw it in the washing machine and it comes out great. A great summer girth.

Equalizer Comfort Girth (again from Dover and other places) -- same attributes as the cord girth, but a bit more traditional looking, and you can throw it in the washer A great winter girth.

EuroGirth -- a pretty traditional looking girth made of heavy elastic that stretches a little bit all over. The hardware is excellent and they last a long time. Problem is, I don't know where to get them now that Tack in the Box doesn't carry much tack any more.

Beval's Italian stirrup leathers -- leather around a nylon core, so they don't stretch, and half-holes (Beval)

Western-style Thinning Knife -- the kind that has a wooden handle and folds up like a switch blade -- great for doing mane quickly and easily and still having them look pretty good (Dover and lots of other places)

Kerrits Schooling Tights -- lightweight, breathable, stretchy, good for our heat (anywhere)

Boink Schooling Tights -- same quallities as Kerrits (Boink, Dovers, or other places)

Royal Rider Fly Wraps -- Lucien has to wear wraps because he's prone to summer sores, and he destroys them quickly. These, he's had for a couple of months and hasn't destroyed yet. (United Vet Equine and other places)

Groomers Edge Double K 501 Clippers -- see my post on Beezer's thread about clipper recommendations (United Vet Equine)

Manna Pro Apple Wafers -- 20 lbs of long-lasting horse cookies for $10.00 (the feed store or State Line)

Hates:

Leather Girths

Saddles, bridles, or other leather goods made in Argentina (including now the Pessoas) or India

Hoof conditioners -- the last thing we need in our climate is to make hooves moister than they are

Little pieces of nylon and foam that claim to be shipping boots

Leather horse boots with fleece lining -- how does anybody keep these clean?

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"I hold it that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing..." Thomas Jefferson

[Pony Jumper]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ghazzu:
Derma-Gel wound ointment.
Actually works.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where do you get Derma-Gel? I got from some my vet when my horse had a cut that wouldn't heal on his leg and this stuff was so great for it! I would like to get some more, as I have almost finished the bottle, but I don't know if I should get it from my vet or if there is another place to get it.

[snapper]

Products that work:

Quic Braid. I recommend this to everyone.
Mane master. For mane maintenance only. I pull when Snapper is sedated and attempt to keep her mop under control with the mane master. Works pretty well until I slack off.
Tritech Super 7 fly spray.
Absorbine Supershield Green-lasts long enough for a ride and I can use it on myself. Plus it smells nice.

Products that don't work:
Any other fly spray I have ever tried!

[Lord Helpus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Judy A:
to toughen feet + also soles especialy for people changing to te barefoot trim----formaldahyde.

white line--a mix of strong iodine + formaldahyde.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let me guess... Judy A is married to an undertaker. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img] That is just about the only way you can get formaldahyde.... I know, because I have tried. Finally, someone told my that Thompson's Deck Sealer had formaldahyde in it. So down to Home Depot I go and look at the lables. I can't tell from the labels, so I call the 800 number on the side of the can. After asking my question 3 times I end up talking to an attorney in their regulatory department! I think that they thought I was an undercover agent trying to find out if Thompsons was breaking any Federal laws....

Once the attorney at Thompsons realized that I was not an undercover spy, but just some crazy horse person who wanted hard hooves on her horse, he spoke guardedly to me. Turns out that formaldehyde is a bad carcinogen and is closely regulated. It has been removed from all consumer products and the likes of you and I cannot buy it anymore.

[lilblackhorse]

Portia, the Eurogirth can be found at Dressage Extensions. We just got one in at our shop, and needed to find one to see how to price a used one-(ours is a 28 FWIW [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] )

Snapper, that is how I do my horse's mane too....pull when drugged, mane master to tide us over until the next drugging [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] .

I forgot another love:

Patagonia riding breeches. They quit making them, but promised me that they would be bringing them back. I love them-lightweight fabric, pullons, with "bicycle short" crotch of cushy fleece. They also make a winter weight breech too. I scarfed up all the ones I could find from patagonia's outlets, but alas, mine are wearing out. Perhaps if enough people called their 800 number, we could get them back in production.... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

[In The Gate]

Are you kidding? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img] I wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten foot pole, let alone put it on my horse! Not only is it a carcinogen, it can kill you if you breathe it in. My biology teacher spent several days in the hospital when he was in college because of it. It will damage your lungs so oxygen cannot get in, it will preserve you alive.

They stopped using it even as a preservative and now use safer, less toxic chemicals.

Valerie
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I'm a 4th quarter senior!!!
And I'm going to:!!!UC Davis!!!
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[This message was edited by In The Gate on Jun. 02, 2002 at 01:55 AM.]

[breezymeadow]

yes, Nolvasan is back on the market in it's delightful creme form.

It was taken off for a couple of years due to "product instability" (which I believe was either that the ingredients tended to separate and/or didn't last as long as the expiration date led one to believe). Apparently, they fixed the problem, & it is now available pretty much everywhere it was before.

Right after it was taken off the market, Breezymeadow purchased six jars of "contraband" so as not to run out. Can you tell that it's a product that she likes & uses?? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

My body is a temple - unfortunately, it's a "fixer- upper".

[vineyridge]

Love:
All Select products that I've tried--
NuHoof and Powerflex both worked for Duncan.

Keratex for hooves (it does have formaldehyde)

A cheap sponge from the auto department at WallyWorld with a built in scrubber on one side--great for scrubbing away crud on legs and backs and much cheaper than any horse product

SUNFLOWER SEEDS--thanks, Fairweather

Grooma soft rubber curries

Equine America's Sheath Cleaner

Actually I'm fond of pretty much all Equine America products

The safety halters in nylon with a leather crown piece.

Bag Balm for scrapes, etc.

Hates:

Can't think of any off the bat.

[Just My Style]

Weathabeeta blankets

Bronco Fly Spray (Cheap and works as well as anything else.)

Ringworm/ Rain Rot Spray (It pink and you can get it from Jeffers. It is MUCH cheaper than any other fungicidal spray an it works amazingly well. Couldn't live with out it.)

Head & Shoulders w/ conditioner (Especially for the dandruff mane or tail.)

Murphy's Oil Soap for tack

Stable Fresh (Spray it in your stalls or paddock where the horses urinate. Eliminates flies and odors. You can also use it for all other pets.)

Desitin (Diaper rash cream. The perfect all purpose cream.)

[FlowerPower]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 3dazey:

Nolvasan cream (can this still be found for sale?)
Poly pads
Keratex hoof hardener (saved my TB's career & I am a sane person again!)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Caution regarding Nolvasan cream... very good for horses, very bad for cats! It says on the label that it can be used for cats but it nearly killed mine...

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~Arkie clique~

"Do, or do not, there is no try." -- Yoda

[Ghazzu]

I believe Derma-Gel is only available throught the vet.

I second the flex stirrups (I have the Sprenger knock-offs) for those of us with bad knees.

For sole toughening, Durasole.
Available online through Alvin Farrier supply, IIRC.

[Tannenwald Trakehner]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 3dazey:

Caution regarding Nolvasan cream... very good for horses, very bad for cats! It says on the label that it can be used for cats but it nearly killed mine...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have used it on my cat with no problem, but he is not an extremely fastidious guy and so did not ingest much.

Breeders & Friends of the Trakehner horse:
American Trakehners - European Engineering, Made in America!

[DMK]

Lord Helpus - I wonder if the vets can still get formaldahyde?

We used to mix with iodine to make a sole toughener, and we also got straight formaldahyde to - get this - remove elastikon residue! Nothing and I mean NOTHING is better to remove that gunk off hair!

And strangely, we did not die while using it. Of course we didn't walk into a low ventilation area and snort away, either! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

There is another effective - probably MORE effective method of toughening up a sole... There is a product that large mechanic shops use to clean up oil/gas out of water spills. The stuff comes in a sheet or roll - it looks like a tightly woven white felt (that's as close as I can get to describing it). It may only be about 1/4" thick max. The mechanics I have known call the stuff "diapers" or "tampons" (don't ask [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img] ). It is about as close to 100% water repellent as you can get.

We used to put venice turpentine on the sole, cut out a hoof shaped piece of the stuff, with an inset cut out for the frog, slap it on, and possibly apply some duct tape, but if they were going in the stall, the venice turpentine held it in place pretty well (sometimes up to 24 hours).

The stuff worked as well or better than anything else I ever tried (up to and including vet prepared sole paints). Finding it is a little tougher. Fortunately my BIL works at a large carrier company, but I gather the stuff is precious even to them!


"You can pretend to be serious; you can't pretend to be witty. "
- Sacha Guitry (1885-1957) *

[MeanderCreek]

find someone who SHOWS dairy cows - they'll have formaldahyde, or know where to get it - how do you think all those cows get four nice full even quarters [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

www.meandercreekstable.com

[Lord Helpus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MeanderCreek:
find someone who SHOWS dairy cows - they'll have formaldahyde, or know where to get it - how do you think all those cows get four nice full even quarters [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Meandercreek, I can honestly say I have never thought of how cows get 4 nice even full quarters. In fact, I am not sure, even now, what you mean by it. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img] Now, in a meat cow, I could imagine why a "quarter" might be important, by why would a dairy cow need to have 4 quarters? (Unless it was to make change for a dollar? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] )

[DMK]

In Section 3.67.A.c.ii of "Useless Trivia" that I have gathered over the years, a "quarter" is a teat. Four even quarters is a full bag that is perfectly symmetrical. I think it's possible that this info has been retained from reading All Creatures Great and Small in the 70's, but I'm not sure about that. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

As to how or why formaldahyde gives a dairy cow a full quarter, I don't have a clue, and I am pretty sure I don't even want to dwell on it, and dear lord, one hopes they don't sell off the milk of the winner like they auction off the beef steer!!! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]


"You can pretend to be serious; you can't pretend to be witty. "
- Sacha Guitry (1885-1957) *