If you bought a supposedly calm, easygoing horse, who was very quiet under saddle at the seller's, then he turns out to be really hot under saddle? For context, he was very footsore at the sellers (didn't show up until PPE b/c all 4 feet were equally sore and he strode out ok on grass) and then got shoes at buyers.
Drug testing sounds obvious, BUT what do you do if it does come back positive? It can cost hundreds of dollars, but can you get your money back any easier? I suppose lawyers aren't cheap either.
ETA: Blood was drawn but not tested at PPE, hotness issues showed up after PPE.
A girl I know had bought a horse from a dealer, two weeks later it came up lame: the drugs had worn off and the old injury was showing.
That was the first and last time she bought a horse without a drug test.
You test now, the seller is just going to say he/she didn't know.
Originally Posted by Bristol Bay
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That's tough! If you are unsure what you want to do with the horse, ie keep him or give back to the seller/sell yourself, I would test him to know for sure. Also, it may give you some leverage against the seller as you stated. Depending on the cost of the horse, if the seller will not take him back, you could maybe take the seller to small claims. No lawyers are needed for small claims and it isn't that expensive to file.
Horse's personality likely changed because he was sore before. But not sure how a foot sore horse didn't show a reaction for hoof testers?
If you test the blood, what will you test for? There are many tranqs out there...or can you just test for "something".
If you test, and the horse shows he was on something, I would see if the seller will take the horse back, and if not, see if the threat of being exposed as having drugged the horse is enough to make them change their mind.
The tests they put race horses through cost in the range of $500. Unless you have a contract that states if the horse tests positive, you can return him and get your money back I would not bother. I would instead concentrate on finding a way to make him less hot through diet and turnout.
Can you do hair strand tests on horses? When we have parents that we suspect are falsifying their drug tests we can do a hair strand test that goes back 90 days for head hair and up to a year for body hair. It's kind of pricey though, around $150. Is there anything similar for horses?
It is also entirely possibly that the horse is just super hot in a new environment. I had a QH/TB who was DEAD calm at home but a total, total nutcase when we left home for anything. If the horse settles down in a few more days I'll bet it just needs to see more of the world.
And being foot sore can definitely make a horse quiet and withdrawn. Perhaps he is just feeling better and full of himself. Maybe try some lungeing and see if he calms down.
Depends on how long I had had the horse and how strong my "gut" was talking to me.
I think if my gut was really nagging me I'd probably have the blood tested for my own knowledge. Then mull over my options. In my mind this is two different issues and not one: have the blood tested, then act on any findings.
So much would depend on my mind of the actual circumstances of the sale. The sellers, the horse, the price, the contract, the actual drugs found AND the amount in the blood. A $2,500 with some Bute on board is a different circumstance than a $25,000 horse presented on resperine. I couldn't decide what I'd do about any positive tests until I actually HAD a positive test.
So first order of business is deciding if it's worth having the sample tested.
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