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    Quote Originally Posted by CFFarm View Post
    If it looks like a fish, swims like a fish and smells like a fish, chances are it's not a duck.
    It's just sad that people do this to their animals. This mare is so sweet and at our barn, my mom and I have tried to just do what this mare needs- to be treated with kindness. This lady rides only on occasion and have the time just comes to groom her. She's a lot better than she used to be as far as being scared of everything goes, but she's still spooky on occasion with certain loud noises and sudden movements. I hope that they don't allow the mistreatment of the TWH to go on because quite frankly, i've seen all that I need to with this one horse.


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    Has anyone seen the text of the bill yet?
    "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanuel Kant



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    NEWS FLASH]]]]
    BL barn in Maryville Tn raided by TBI



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    Quote Originally Posted by aarpaso View Post
    NEWS FLASH]]]]
    BL barn in Maryville Tn raided by TBI
    link?



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    The text is up.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:H.R.1518:

    aarpaso - What raid?
    from sunridge1:Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.it is going to be good until the last drop!Eleneswell, the open trail begged to be used. D Taylor



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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleycane View Post
    The text is up.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:H.R.1518:

    aarpaso - What raid?
    On the local new in Knoxville last night. Larry Wheelan, a long time Big Lick trainer, had his barn checked by at least AC. According to the report they swabbed legs; checked one shoe and found it legal; looked around; and then left. No more details at this time.

    G.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D_BaldStockings View Post
    link?
    Here it is:

    http://www.wbir.com/news/article/265...buse-complaine
    from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.



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    Roy sent this to me after his morning post

    Feds Pounce On Horse Trainer
    By Roy Exum

    Federal agents, accompanied by Blount County animal control officers, raided the barn of veteran walking horse trainer Larry Wheelon near Maryville, Tenn., on Thursday morning and were allegedly “shocked” to find evidence of illegal soring and visible abuse among the 28 horses at the farm located on Tuckaleechee Pike.

    The forelegs of most of the horses were allegedly wrapped after caustic substances had been applied to the animals and, according to sources, a paste thought to be a mixture including cinnamon and kerosene was being utilized to achieve the so-called “Big Lick,” an unnatural gait that wins blue ribbons in nearby Shelbyville. According to one source, several horses were “in agony” as veterinarians palpated the animals’ irritated front legs.

    Wheelon told reporters from television station WBIR (Channel 10 News in Knoxville) that the agents didn’t find anything after serving a search warrant at approximately 7 a.m. but a Blount County animal control officer was quoted by the TV station as saying, “I think we have very different ideas about what abuse is.” Agents spent 9 hours at Wheelon’s barn on Thursday in order to inspect each animal.

    Because Wheelon did not have written proof the animals had been inspected for Coggins Disease (equine infectious anemia), 27 of the horses were later placed under quarantine by state health officials and cannot be transported. On Friday, federal attorneys were pursuing whether a protective order and/or similar legal instruments should also be employed. The names of the owners of the horses have not been released.

    Since the Thursday raid, neither the USDA nor county animal control officials will make any comment “due to an ongoing investigation” but outside sources revealed the USDA officers included licensed veterinarians who were video-taped as they removed the wrapping from the horses’ legs, discovered caustic agents, palpated tender areas and took sterile swabs.

    It is believed it will take approximately two weeks for the labs to properly analyze the swabs. If the lab tests, and other evidence taken, result in an arrest warrant, Wheelon and others involved could be charged as criminals by federal and state agencies. Officers of the Blount County Sheriff’s Dept. also participated in the raid to provide security. Wheelon was not allowed on the property while the search warrant was in place.

    It is being reported that approximately 26 of the 28 horses had wrapping on their forelegs and, under a Tennessee law that went into effect last July, each count that is proven is now a felony, punishable by not less than one but no more than five years in prison. Under Federal law, horse abuse is still a misdemeanor, although there is legislation pending that would make it a more serious crime.

    Wheelon, who is an active director of the Tennessee Walking Horse Trainer’s Association, has a long and colorful history of violating the federal Horse Protection Act and sources in Maryville said he has been soring animals “for at least 25 years.” The agents raided his barn after receiving a tip, it is believed.

    Ironically, on Wednesday of this week the Tennessee Legislature voted to approve a heavily-criticized law that requires a “whistleblower” to report animal abuse to law authorities within a 48-hour time period or be charged with a misdemeanor.

    It is now alleged that if the “AgGag” law were in effect (it is awaiting the Governor’s signature) the tipster would be the criminal and Wheelon – who is indeed innocent until proven guilty – would skip any state charges due to the bill’s carefully-crafted limitations.

    The raid on Wheelon’s farm comes as little surprise to insiders in the Tennessee Walking Horse industry. The USDA recently released an 11-page report of foreign substance results that were taken at random at horse shows in 2012 and the results are staggering. According to the Dept. of Agriculture, of 24 shows that were tested by licensed officials, 309 out of 478 walking horses tested positive for banned substances.

    Each trainer was issued a “ticket” by the USDA, which means virtually nothing to the “Big Lick” crowd based in Shelbyville. The trainer is suspended from showing horses but by assigning another trainer, changing the horse’s name and using other “owner,” those who cheat for the blue ribbons are seemingly unfazed by the “wrist slap” federal process.

    Worse, the Walking Horse Trainer’s Association – where Wheelon is quite well known – is rife with violators of the federal Horse Protection Act. Federal prosecutors in Chattanooga enforced the act for the first time in its 40-year history just two years ago and, among those who pleaded guilty in 2012 was Hall of Fame trainer Jackie McConnell, a longtime colleague of Wheelon’s who is still awaiting a state trail after videos were taken showing him sadistically and brutally torturing horses at his barn in west Tennessee.

    The video, going viral after it appeared on ABC’s “Nightline,” brought world-wide attention to the wide-spread horse abuse in Tennessee and the state legislature enacted a bill to make livestock abuse a felony. Since the law went into effect on July 1, 2012, it has not yet been used by state prosecutors in a criminal case.

    It is believed federal and state animal control agencies have heightened enforcement of livestock abuse due to an enraged public and better laws to prosecute violators. Asked if there would be other raids in the state, officials would not comment.

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    Thanks Preacher, i had just finished reading that and was on my way here to post it !
    from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.


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    looks like Larry the Louse is in the same boat with Jackie the Jerk,No wait the Law now for abuse is a felony in Tennessee.well well,LICKERS


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    But this is what sucks ( and lucky for them this week it hasn't become law yet):

    It is now alleged that if the “AgGag” law were in effect (it is awaiting the Governor’s signature) the tipster would be the criminal and Wheelon – who is indeed innocent until proven guilty – would skip any state charges due to the bill’s carefully-crafted limitations.

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    That is ridiculous about the Ag-Gag bill. I hope the governor VETOS. The fact that the trainer came out and said "they found nothing". Then the Investigators had a totally different story shows the immense disconnect between the views on soring. The truth will come out in the end, it always does. I hope for the horses it is sooner than later. The Tennessee Walking Horse is a GREAT BREED. The people it has been subjugated by, not so much.


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    You can call Governor Haslam’s office right and ask him to veto S.B.1248/H.B. 1191. The number is (615) 741-2001.

    You can email him at bill.haslam@tn.gov

    Be nice.
    from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.



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    STAR POWER!!!

    Carrie Underwood is now in the fight and public about it

    http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2.../?breakingnews


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    Roy,
    thanks for sharing this.
    I hope more Tennesseans will join the fight against this bill.
    Politicians must think that 'We The People' are just too dumb to realize what their true intentions are.

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    Wynonna Judd has let Carrie know that she has her back, also. Nice that they are putting what is right above record sales. I dont own a C Underwood CD but i think i may just buy one and get a message to her to thank her for her support.
    from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.


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    H.R. 1518 to amend the Horse Protection Act and Prevent all Soring Tactics to the Tennessee Walking horse -- this is the link to the text

    https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/113/hr1518


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    This Ag-Gag bill is causing a big stir in Tennessee.

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...8/2091/opinion
    from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkInTheWoods View Post
    This Ag-Gag bill is causing a big stir in Tennessee.

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...8/2091/opinion
    First, that "ag gag law" is misnamed.
    That law doesn't gag anyone.
    On the contrary, it demands people don't sit on proof of abuse for months, as animal rights extremist do.
    That law should be called "law to prevent abuse by animal rights groups".

    Just think, that is exactly what the HSUS did in this case right here.
    They were waiting with their proof of big lick abuse, shopping the videos around, until they got the best price for them.
    All along more horses were being abused.

    Second, how would you like it if someone wants to plant an animal rights extremist in your barn, that without you knowing it will video any and all you do and then edit it and say "see there, you are beating horses!" when what they have shows you maybe telling a colt not to walk all over you, but in the video it seems you are abusing that colt, the way the camera pans, over and over the same few frames?
    The music and voice over tells the viewer what they are seeing, that is not there, as so many animal rights extremist abuse videos show?

    I think that is what the other part of the law, the one that makes it a crime to lie on your application when you get hired.

    Just think about all of this for a while, learn more before thinking you have a good idea of what all these laws are about.



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