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  1. #2981
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    this past wkend at a show in Shelbyville Tn, a padded horse throw a HOOF,yes a HOOF,the grounds crew had to repair the ring (remove the BLOOD) now tell me again how these stacks and so called packages don't do any Harm.the AVMA and the AAEP are RIGHT.end the Big Lick help the Tn Walking horse keep its hooves.


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    Oh My God that's disgusting. Did the poor horse have to be euthanized?
    What's wrong with you?? Your cheese done slid off its cracker?!?!


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    Quote Originally Posted by aarpaso View Post
    this past wkend at a show in Shelbyville Tn, a padded horse throw a HOOF,yes a HOOF,the grounds crew had to repair the ring (remove the BLOOD) now tell me again how these stacks and so called packages don't do any Harm.the AVMA and the AAEP are RIGHT.end the Big Lick help the Tn Walking horse keep its hooves.
    Do you know if this hit the news or if there are pictures/video? Cuz you just know someone's gonna say "nope, tain't true."
    <>< Sorrow Looks Back. Worry Looks Around. Faith Looks Up! -- Being negative only makes a difficult journey more difficult. You may be given a cactus, but you don't have to sit on it.


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    That poor horse, he must have been in so much pain. Truly disgusting.


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    The entire hoof did not break off --- it broke the toe off --- horse was not euth!


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    nashfad
    all that was told was a horse at a show in Shelbyville lost a hoof do to the stacks and the band ie the pkage.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nashfad View Post
    The entire hoof did not break off --- it broke the toe off --- horse was not euth!
    And this is OK because........?


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    Having spoken with my Vet,it was explained to me that an injury like that would damage blood vessels and senitive tissue under the outer hoof wall,as far up as the coronary band.the force alone would damage the inner structure of the animal's hoof,possibly causing future rotation of inner bones. is this not reason enough to end stacks and packages.


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    Aarpaso

    Just trying to keep it accurate here.

    If I STATE you had your right foot cut OFF

    is that the same as

    You broke the instep of your right foot, which is serious but not in the same league?

    You have garnered a lot of attention and support from many horse enthusiasts

    Don't blow it with ongoing misrepresentation or exaggeration


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    FAIRFAX

    i believe my VET,and how it was shown to me.


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    Roy made mention of the accident in todays paper.

    http://chattanoogan.com/2012/11/20/2...d-Musings.aspx

    "AT A HORSE SHOW in Shelbyville this weekend, it has been reported a metal band holding the loathsome stacks on a Tennessee Walking Horse was affixed so tightly the animal’s hoof came flying off as it tried to perform. Witnesses said it was real bloody and the animal was finally taken to a horse trailer. If anyone in America doesn’t think that is sick and disgusting, they are crazy. And the question persists – why wasn’t the sheriff called?"
    from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.


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    I did not say it is "OK"-----I have ---unfortunately---seen this happen many times. The toe is soooooooo long then the package and the wrong landing and it breaks. Saw a padded horse get loose once and he broke his toe off running crazy. Yes, it bled. Did I like it, no. I am just saying it was not the entire hoof as originally posted----yes, they bleed. It is a nasty wound.

    Why was the sheriff not called if someone felt that the horse was in an abusive situation? "Talk the talk then walk the walk"


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    Joint statement from the American Association of Equine Practitioners and the American Veterinary Medical Association supporting HR6388.

    http://www.aaep.org/press_room.php?term=2012&id=498
    from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairfax View Post
    Aarpaso

    Just trying to keep it accurate here.

    If I STATE you had your right foot cut OFF

    is that the same as

    You broke the instep of your right foot, which is serious but not in the same league?

    You have garnered a lot of attention and support from many horse enthusiasts

    Don't blow it with ongoing misrepresentation or exaggeration
    I agree with Fairfax. I have seen this injury more then once, and even though it is not a good thing to happen, it usually is not as bad as it looks. Most of the time the hoof grows back and there is no lasting injury


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    McConnell case goes to the Grand Jury.


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    http://chattanoogan.com/2012/11/21/2...More-Pads.aspx

    The American Veterinary Medical Association – with 82,500 professional members – and the American Association of Equine Practitioners – with another 10,000 who have dedicated their lives to the betterment of horses – delivered a savage kick in the face to the despicable “Big Lick” crowd in Shelbyville early this week when the two groups called on Congress to soon pass the Amendments to the Horse Protection Act, House Bill No. 6388.

    The amendments are badly needed since there has been continued and rampant abuse of soring in the Tennessee Walking Horse industry this year. The “Big Lick” faction has openly scoffed at efforts of horse advocates to eliminate the torture and sadistic practices for 40 years since the Horse Protection Act was put into law, but now the country’s top veterinarians and equine experts have joined an enraged public eager to put those who torture horses in jail.

    Dr. Doug Aspros, the president of the AVMA, said in a statement, “Soring is an unconscionable abuse of horses that is used to produce a high-stepping gait—the ‘Big Lick’—and gain an unfair competitive advantage in the show ring. For decades we’ve watched irresponsible individuals become more creative about finding ways to sore horses and circumvent the inspection process, and have lost faith in an industry that seems unwilling and/or unable to police itself."

    “The AVMA and AAEP are committed to strengthening the USDA’s ability to enforce the Horse Protection Act,” said the White Plains, N.Y., veterinarian, “and ending this abuse for good. We strongly encourage everyone who cares about the welfare of horses to contact their member of Congress and urge them to pass H.R. 6388.”

    Dr. John Mitchell, the president of the AAEP, was more direct, correctly pointing out the national outcry towards those who have sullied the noble image of the Tennessee Walking Horse. "The passage of H.R. 6388 will strengthen the Horse Protection Act and significantly increase the effort to end the abuse of the Tennessee Walking Horse," said the Boca Raton, Fla., veterinarian. "The AAEP encourages all veterinarians to contact their legislators to voice support for the bill and help end the cruel soring of these beautiful animals."

    The Horse Protection Act, established 40 years ago, was never successfully prosecuted until federal agents from Chattanooga won five guilty pleas this year. One was from the now-famed Jackie McConnell, a trainer from west Tennessee, who brutally clubbed a horse in an undercover video that has now been seen by millions the world over. Because of woefully-lax federal laws, every violator got a suspended sentence – including the loathsome McConnell.

    The proposed amendments to the Horse Protection Act will provide the following distinctions that will greatly strengthen the act:

    * -- Makes the actual act of soring, or directing another person to cause a horse to become sore, illegal;

    * -- Requires the USDA (rather than the industry) to license, train, assign and oversee inspectors enforcing the Horse Protection Act;

    * -- Prohibits the use of action devices (e.g., boot, collar, chain, roller, or other device that encircles or is placed upon the lower extremity of the leg of a horse) on any limb of Tennessee Walking Horses, Spotted Saddle horses, or Racking horses at horse shows, exhibitions, sales or auctions and bans weighted shoes, pads, wedges, hoof bands, or other devices that are not used for protective or therapeutic purposes;

    * -- Increases civil and criminal penalties for violations, and creates a penalty structure that requires horses to be disqualified for increasing periods of time based on the number of violations; and

    * -- Allows for permanent disqualification from the show ring after three or more violations.

    Many feel the Amendments will fly through Congress but the “Big Lick” industry is far from dead; they swooned Congressman Scott DesJarlais (R-Jasper) at a “fundraiser” during this year’s National Celebration. The Humane Society of the United States has since learned the much-maligned DesJarlais has an equally shameful record voting on animal issues. He was even called down for “harassing” the USDA by former Senator Joseph Tidings, the author of the Horse Protection Act.

    Recent revelations have proven DesJarlais to be little more than “a bad Republican joke” in Washington circles but reports that a horse’s hoof was actually torn off while it was being shown in Shelbyville last Saturday is not funny at all. It happened at the aptly-named “Walking For Angels Show” and horse advocates are enraged that nothing was done after the horse’s bloody leg was wrapped and the animal was led from the show ring.

    As the head of the American Veterinary Medical Association just said, “For decades we’ve watched irresponsible individuals become more creative about finding ways to sore horses and circumvent the inspection process, and have lost faith in an industry that seems unwilling and/or unable to police itself.”

    That’s enough to make you write your Congressman on Thanksgiving Day.

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    from sunridge1 Go get 'em Roy! Stupid clown shoe nailing, acid pouring bast@rds.


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    seems this is still front page NEWS.as long as its out there on all the web in the paper people will speak out they will step up,to help STOP Soring.

    thanks horsetalk.co.nz


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    What REALLY happened was that a horse that was showing, stepped on its front pad, same type as Arabs, American Saddlebreds, Hackneys, Morgans etc... Only the TWH has a larger/taller one.

    The horse stepped on it, causing it to come off, when it came off some of the toe came off aswell. The FOOT or whole Hoof did NOT come off.... Yes the horse bled some, it did not permintaly damage anything. It was an accendent that the horse stepped on its self. Same thing Could have happened to a keg shod horse that was showing.

    The damage that did happen was nowhere near the dramatization that some are claiming. And Yes I attended the horse show where it happened.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyDick View Post
    What REALLY happened was that a horse that was showing, stepped on its front pad, same type as Arabs, American Saddlebreds, Hackneys, Morgans etc... Only the TWH has a larger/taller one.

    The horse stepped on it, causing it to come off, when it came off some of the toe came off aswell. The FOOT or whole Hoof did NOT come off.... Yes the horse bled some, it did not permintaly damage anything. It was an accendent that the horse stepped on its self. Same thing Could have happened to a keg shod horse that was showing.

    The damage that did happen was nowhere near the dramatization that some are claiming. And Yes I attended the horse show where it happened.
    Welcome, Bradley, to the Train Wreck that has been going on and off for a very long time. When anybody dares to come on here to defend the Padded horse that person is called many nasty names. There are many people that refuse to come on here and defend the padded horse any more for that reason. I have tried, but it is like trying to argue with a blank wall. You are a perfect person to come on here, and try and talk in defense of our beautiful TWH's, but you will probably be called out and called vile names as well! Good luck, Bradley...this group of Anti's is on a witch hunt!


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