Well, I meant to say QH types, but was typing on my phone. They are 5-12 yrs old, don,t need to stay together. The youngest(mare) is pretty green, but w-t-c, and trails-she's uneven behind, may be just stifles,(hasn't been worked up) but Karen has 50+. Middle G(8ish) has navicular changes, and is better w/bars and wedges, but is now barefoot. 12 yr old off behind, also never really been worked up.