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    Default Zirocco Blue [Mr. Blue x Voltaire x Le Tot de Semilly] Fans!

    For Zirocco Blue VDL [Mr. Blue x Voltaire x Le Tot de Semilly x Jalisco x Uriel] fans we just posted some new photos of him and two of his offspring photos taken earlier this month in Holland at VDL Stud.

    We will be posting some new jumping photos of him very soon.

    Here is the link:
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...0443973&type=1

    LOVE this stallion and check out his two foals!
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    Thanks for the wonderful photos!

    I love my Zirocco Blue x Guidam 2 year old filly - can't wait to see how she develops.
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    I commented over on Facebook, but thanks for posting the photos! I'm breeding my Indoctro mare to him this year, so it was nice to see a comparable cross!
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    Thanks

    Zirocco Blue's Jumping Photos are now up here:
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...0443973&type=1

    He simply does not take a bad photo and is just so stunning and talented!
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    I just received video of my 2yo Zirocco Blue x Darco x Indoctro from her first attempt at free fumping. I'm really happy with how she is developing!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI7ECh5BjqA
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    I really like the stallion but I gotta say....the babies seem heavy thru the body to me and can have coarse heads.

    Ive seen several young ones jump lately also and have only seen one I thought had good talent. Not sure I'm diggin em. Just sayin......



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    When I spoke to VDL about using Zirocco, they were quite honest in the type of mare that he needed (something not too coarse, heavy, old-style) and the fact that he could throw heavy. I think the Voltaire comes through quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillside H Ranch View Post
    When I spoke to VDL about using Zirocco, they were quite honest in the type of mare that he needed (something not too coarse, heavy, old-style) and the fact that he could throw heavy. I think the Voltaire comes through quite a bit.
    This is clear. I haven't really seen one yet that I thought was modern enough.

    The Holsteiner Verband has approved him and I have been speaking with a few breeders who are planning to use him and they are already selecting their most modern mares that are streamlined thru the middle.

    He seems to me a bit tricky to use. I like him very much though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mikali View Post
    I just received video of my 2yo Zirocco Blue x Darco x Indoctro from her first attempt at free fumping. I'm really happy with how she is developing!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI7ECh5BjqA
    Nice moving filly. It was fun to see her brain working as she figured out the jumping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillside H Ranch View Post
    I think the Voltaire comes through quite a bit.
    Not just Voltaire, I would say that the offspring of Mr Blue are also a little hit-and-miss in the looks department.

    In my particular case - I wasn't trying to refine with this cross. What Zirocco did do was help lengthen my Darco mare, especially in the legs department... something that Corland hadn't done with the previous filly (refine yes, but still that short Darco forleg).

    Seeing Faiza at 2 months old, I knew she was going to be "big boned" but I am encouraged to see what looks like a more well balanced mare.
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    Well we are fans of Zirocco!

    We have a foal due shortly out of our Calato x Cantus mare. Could this be the only one in the US this season?

    We also have a 3 year old in Holland who's perhaps looking like a MPT prospect. She is Zirocco Blue x Calido x Notaris.

    Wonder if anyone of the distributors have gotten semen this year yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperionStudLLC View Post
    Well we are fans of Zirocco!

    We have a foal due shortly out of our Calato x Cantus mare. Could this be the only one in the US this season?

    We also have a 3 year old in Holland who's perhaps looking like a MPT prospect. She is Zirocco Blue x Calido x Notaris.

    Wonder if anyone of the distributors have gotten semen this year yet?

    Cheers
    I know that Kathy @ Magestic Gaits just got her shipment, b/c that is who I purchased mine from. However, she said they didn't send much, and he now has a new contract. I had already signed a contract before the change, thankfully, b/c now he is (and I believe Indoctro and Corland?) going to a LFG contract only which is one foal per contract. Previously you could buy by the dose and get as many foals as you wanted. Now they will only send a limited number of doses at a time, and for each foal conceived you pay an additional stud fee. It is my understanding that VDL will be switching all of their stallions to this same contract next year... Anyway, yes, the semen is available here.
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    I have a yearling by ZB out of a Guidam mare and while I don't think he's necessarily heavy, he certainly has plenty of bone. I actually commented today that his head has gotten much prettier this year. Last year I was not a fan of it but I think it will turn out nice enough after all. In general I am very happy with mine, he has a very good shoulder and back end, and a super brain. ZB is a lovely horse and still very young to see what he ultimately contributes to the sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillside H Ranch View Post
    I know that Kathy @ Magestic Gaits just got her shipment, b/c that is who I purchased mine from. However, she said they didn't send much, and he now has a new contract. I had already signed a contract before the change, thankfully, b/c now he is (and I believe Indoctro and Corland?) going to a LFG contract only which is one foal per contract. Previously you could buy by the dose and get as many foals as you wanted. Now they will only send a limited number of doses at a time, and for each foal conceived you pay an additional stud fee. It is my understanding that VDL will be switching all of their stallions to this same contract next year... Anyway, yes, the semen is available here.
    Many times in Europe they break up the cost of the stud fee in phases. You will pay initial fee to buy semen, then once confirmed in foal you will pay more, and then when foal is born you pay remainder. This is the case, for example, with many Zangersheide stallions. Although not common practice here, I feel it is the stallion owner's choice of how to get their money. Typically we stallion owners require a booking fee and then when semen ships the payment for the outstanding balance is due.

    I think in some cases, the practices of the European stallion owners could work here, but I don't feel we are in that place yet. As breeders, we have to be open to stepping outside the bounds of our contracts to help initiate bookings. In our operation, we work with everyone on an individual basis. We respect the contract we write, but we have open ended feelings about the trials and tribulations due to the nature of breeding.

    It takes a lot of work for European stallion owners to get semen to this part of the world. That is something to be respected in terms of our costs and what incentives we may get for using that semen. I only wish we could flip the table at some point and get semen from the top rated stallions shipped off to Europe. To get the Europeans excited about something we have that they don't. Long road ahead, but the horses we are producing today are far better as a whole than what we have been producing in the past. We were lucky to sell our champion colt last year to Europe. Knowing it has been done, should help us in being more confident that what we have is desirable by breeders around the Globe.

    May have gone off in another direction here, but I think it's important to make sure people know that we can compete with the Europeans as breeders and in small ways we are. Also to note, sometimes we have equally good stallion options here for much less the price!

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    Hyperion,
    Look forward to seeing your foal please be sure to post photos, I think your foal is the only Zirocco due this year in NA unless someone imported a mare in foal to him. His semen is excellent.

    We are also big fans of Zirocco Blue!

    Our semen shipment will arrive very soon and we are almost sold out already and can not get any more for this year a limiited supply was shipped to North America.

    VDL are offering a LFG contract for these stallions this year- Zirocco Blue, Indoctro and Cardento. Next year all of VDL's stallions will be sold this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prima Equestrian View Post
    Hyperion,
    Look forward to seeing your foal please be sure to post photos, I think your foal is the only Zirocco due this year in NA unless someone imported a mare in foal to him. His semen is excellent..
    Funny this is the case because two years ago we had the only offspring from Asca Z out of the same mare! That was a colt.... Would be nice to have another. She's close and on foal watch now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperionStudLLC View Post
    Funny this is the case because two years ago we had the only offspring from Asca Z out of the same mare! That was a colt.... Would be nice to have another. She's close and on foal watch now.

    Cheers
    I've been watching Asca Z for the last couple of years and was so excited to see your colt when I discovered you'd produced him! Very, very interesting stallion...just don't yet have a mare for him. Where is your colt now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leah A View Post
    I've been watching Asca Z for the last couple of years and was so excited to see your colt when I discovered you'd produced him! Very, very interesting stallion...just don't yet have a mare for him. Where is your colt now?
    The Asca Z colt was sold to AliBoo farm in Illinois when he was a weanling. Here is a link to his page. He looks fantastic!

    http://www.aliboofarm.com/Breeding/2...4/Default.aspx
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