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    Default More treat warnings (aka China)

    Just saw this on another list:
    http://poisonedpets.com/2012/04/06/a...oisoning-dogs/

    Luckily I don't have any of these in the house. People we need to wake up and start to buy local or homemade only!!



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    I REFUSE to give my dogs anything from China. If we are getting recalls from people food from China, what do you think they will do with dog food??

    I get my dog food from OBS in Ocala. They had some new treats and asked me to try them. I read the label, and it said Made In China. They were horrified, didnt even notice it, and their supplier didnt mention it either; said they will never get them again. Glad they are proactive.



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    I refuse to feed anything from China as well. And no toys, chews, bowls - nothing that my dogs will have in their mouths, or that will hold anything that will end up in their mouth. I try to not buy ANYTHING made in China. Can I tell you how hard that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinsella View Post
    I refuse to feed anything from China as well. And no toys, chews, bowls - nothing that my dogs will have in their mouths, or that will hold anything that will end up in their mouth. I try to not buy ANYTHING made in China. Can I tell you how hard that is?

    Munching - I'll be emailing you about an order in the VERY near future...
    Likewise. I am fed up with dangerous crap from China. My dogs do not sleep on Chinese-made beds, eat treats sourced from China, or play with toys that might be stuffed with Chinese radioactive waste.

    Gonna start making my own dog treats, I think.



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    Jesus. My dog developed medical issues a few years ago that led to a very restricted diet - and I'm glad, seeing all these stories.

    Isn't it odd, though, that we've all been brainwashed by the pet food industry into thinking that our pets need "special" treats, when they're just as soon eat some of the cheese, meat or whatever else we bought for ourselves? I mean, the kibble is so much easier than mixing your own, I get that, but treats? Just pop some popcorn or chop up some leftover chicken.



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    Quote Originally Posted by vacation1 View Post
    Jesus. My dog developed medical issues a few years ago that led to a very restricted diet - and I'm glad, seeing all these stories.

    Isn't it odd, though, that we've all been brainwashed by the pet food industry into thinking that our pets need "special" treats, when they're just as soon eat some of the cheese, meat or whatever else we bought for ourselves? I mean, the kibble is so much easier than mixing your own, I get that, but treats? Just pop some popcorn or chop up some leftover chicken.
    Amen.



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    Well, what did dogs eat in the 1940s, 30s, 20s? Pretty sure it was table scraps or shot varmints.

    Cats on the other hand do need Taurine, so that is a consideration.

    Re Chinese ingredients, how the heck do we tell if one component wasn't outsourced to China. One cat food has suddenly added cheese to many of their labels. Now, where do they get the milk for that cheese?
    My cat lives on ff turkey in gravy, for yrs and years(she's 18). Two years ago she has developed that red eye drip. If I feed her raw liver for two days, no drip. Go back to FF, drip.

    I find it very hard to avoid Chinese products, or products with some Chinese component. Shoes, horse blankets, sink handles etc.



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    It is not good business to poison your customers, or the lingering bad PR from someone that slipped and did that.

    In this global economy, many supplies are also global.
    Good, because we too get to sell OUR products globally.



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    Sometimes I'm glad I have a dog with bad allergies that I can only treat with chunks of fish or a piece of cooked sweet potato.
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    I buy grass fed ground beef from my local Organic supplier. Sometimes he has it 5 pounds for $20...when he does, I get it for the puppies, make little meat balls, freeze them, and thats their treats.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chall View Post
    I find it very hard to avoid Chinese products, or products with some Chinese component. Shoes, horse blankets, sink handles etc.
    It isn't possible unless you're dealing with very simple goods that are byproducts of things you find around you in nature.
    Thus do we growl that our big toes have,
    at this moment, been thrown up from below!



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    I've tried to be "China-free" ever since I saw that China allows dogs to be skinned alive for their fur.
    Then came the dog & cat food problems, then the wheat for human consumption problems, then the heparin for dialysis problems, then the paint on children's toys problems, then the dog treat problems...
    Come on now...enough is enough!
    It's obvious that China just doesn't care.
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    As we all discovered in the first round of bad additives to the cat and dog foods, many items actually formulated in North America are from components that originate in China, and had the bad ingredients as fillers. A friend's cat died of kidney failure after eating a well known dry food that was never recalled, but it was on the list for the class action suit, and made by one of the major manufacturers that had everything else they produced recalled.
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    jan, what food was that???
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    JB-the initials were FF dry, and my friend was shocked when she ran across that herself (I wasn't going to tell her, because it would have changed nothing, and made her feel awful). I couldn't believe it, that the food was the only one the manufacturer didn't recall at one time or another, and the only announcement that it might be included was on the class action lawsuit list. It's very logical, because it's made by the same company as the others, and probably in the same factory.
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    It is very hard to avoid chinese ingredients in anything you buy. Remember a couple years ago all those Chinese babies (and some in the US) were dying and/or having kidney issues? It was very near the time pets were dying here. They found that it had melamine added to whatever they were selling to make laboratory tests test positive for a certain protein(?) or something that might otherwise not test well. It was all about money and productivity there....the Chinese government executed the guy that was blamed for that, just put him in front a firing squad and let him have it.
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    Ever since the chinese-treat issue came to light, my Seven Dwarves get cherry tomatoes, bits of cheese, cut up apples, bananas or raw carrots as treats - and gobble them up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRS View Post
    It is very hard to avoid chinese ingredients in anything you buy. Remember a couple years ago all those Chinese babies (and some in the US) were dying and/or having kidney issues? It was very near the time pets were dying here. They found that it had melamine added to whatever they were selling to make laboratory tests test positive for a certain protein(?) or something that might otherwise not test well. It was all about money and productivity there....the Chinese government executed the guy that was blamed for that, just put him in front a firing squad and let him have it.
    They were adding melamine to the babies formula to make it test for a higher percentage of protein. So they were boosting the protein content of the formula with the Melamine.

    I adopted my daughter from China at that time, the formula that she was fed was tainted.... so I'm familiar with the issues. But I didn't know that US babies were getting tainted formula....

    I of course will not avoid all things Chinese, since my dd is 100% Chinese and I loff her to pieces. So we got lots of Chinese art and stuff in our house. But I understand the gist of what folks here are about, the outrage over contamination in their pets foods. I get the whole frustration thing... I'm always freaked by what my dd got as "food" and what potential health issues it might trigger in the future. But I wouldn't blame and entire nation for what a group of bad people did.



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    The part of the melamine contamination I find unforgivable is that at least one major manufacturer found out about the contamination, and did nothing. There have been many incidents of melamine and other bad additives from China, plus the tainted toothpaste (I think toothpaste), but also there have been the recent pink slime additives to meat here, and apparently there's something about fish additive too. And all of the salmonella and ecoli outbreaks from domestic produce (and sometimes the authorities never find out what caused it) are very scary. I think someday we'll be reduced to drinking water, and nothing else, and then they'll ban that too. It really seems that there is nothing entirely safe no matter where it comes from.
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