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Mar. 25, 2012, 07:16 AM
#1
Should I be worried about the neighbors red maple trees?
We are putting a bid on a small property today that is next to a fairly new development of houses. I see some red maples in back yards. We will have to put our pasture fence 25 feet from the borders but should I worry about those leaves blowing onto our property in the fall? Will the horses eat them or avoid them?
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Mar. 25, 2012, 08:13 AM
#2
I wouldn't worry. Just don't rake them up and dump them in your pasture.
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Mar. 25, 2012, 09:06 AM
#3
The odd leaf wouldn't freak me out. That said I would communicate to your new neighbors that they can't feed them to the horses or start a compost near your fence line.
What was to be my first horse died the day before money was to exchange hands because the neighbor shared a compost with the horse owners pasture and dumped red maple leaves. (lots of stupid in this story)
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Mar. 25, 2012, 09:28 AM
#4
Perhaps a SIGN on the backside of your fence for neighbors ?
Perhaps ( if this sounds 'sound' for your situation ) a SIGN on the backside of your fence indicating that the red maple leaves are poisonous and not to be fed to horses.
Or just a general sign
"DO NOT FEED HORSES PLEASE !THEY ARE ON SPECIAL MEDICAL DIETS "
Zu Zu Bailey " IT"S A WONDERFUL LIFE !"
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Mar. 25, 2012, 09:32 AM
#5
I have a very large Red Maple in my front paddock and haven't had any trouble in the two years we've used it. I do cruise and pick up fallen branches with green leaves, green leaves that have been blown off, and occasionally rake and remove leaves in general.
I don't recommend putting your pasture fence right up against subdivision boundaries because the homeowners will feed your horses grass clippings and just junk from over the fence - my Mom's next door neighbor used to feed the horses behind her day old bread, so the red maples may be the least of your worries.
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Mar. 25, 2012, 10:21 AM
#6
I would be very worried! I know of a farm near me who had some branches break and leaves blow over..they had 4 with maple leaf poison and lost 1.
Any maple tree that gets a red vine in the leaf can be toxic...I had a green one removed because in the fall it would get a red vine.
My feeling is to reduce any risks when you can.
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Mar. 25, 2012, 10:38 AM
#7
few horses would be alive in Kentucky if every maple leaf eaten killed a horse as most pastures there have many maple trees
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Mar. 25, 2012, 10:58 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by clanter
few horses would be alive in Kentucky if every maple leaf eaten killed a horse as most pastures there have many maple trees
This. You can't worry about every little thing. Cherry trees (wilted leaves anyway) are a whole lot more toxic than red maple and there are cherry trees everywhere in KY! I have a few along my line fences only because I never remember to cut them down in the winter when they have no leaves.
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Mar. 25, 2012, 11:30 AM
#9
Can you have a double fence to keep humans from reaching over to feed? I don't know how expensive chain link is, but that will keep leaves out too. Then have an interior fence for the horses.
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Mar. 25, 2012, 11:44 AM
#10
Most of the houses have a perimeter fence and ours will be in 25 feet. I was upset about that lost pasture space but now I have rethought it and like a double barrier between humans and horses!
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Mar. 25, 2012, 02:41 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by clanter
few horses would be alive in Kentucky if every maple leaf eaten killed a horse as most pastures there have many maple trees
Ahhh - but there are "Maple Leaves/Trees" & there are "Maple Leaves/Trees".
The maple family covers a LOT of ground, & most are harmless to horses. However, the "Red Maple" is extremely toxic, & it doesn't take a lot to fatally poison a horse.
It's a very common tree in the northeast - & particularly in the Mid-Atlantic/south. In fact, they're one of the very first trees to announce spring as their buds are deep burgundy-red & can be seen for miles as they dot the woodlots & mountains here.
I, unfortunately have quite a few in my woodlot - one very attractive & very old one next to one of my fenced fields. Whenever we have high winds or a heavy storm, I make a point of going out & raking up any/all fallen leaves/branches - along with the also inevitable wild cherry leaves/branches - as wind-blown/wilted material is the most dangerous. Thankfully, since my gang is well-fed, they don't seem very interested in any flotsam/jetsam. Still, it's better to be safe than sorry.
As for posting signs, I think it would be better to get to know the neighbors instead of doing that. Signs for next-door neighbors without reason/understanding to the reader look/feel snobby. I'd be doing a personal friendly visit before resorting to that.
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Mar. 26, 2012, 12:50 AM
#12
 Originally Posted by heavensdew
Most of the houses have a perimeter fence and ours will be in 25 feet. I was upset about that lost pasture space but now I have rethought it and like a double barrier between humans and horses!
I would just have enough space between the fences for what ever mower or tractor I used. 25 feet is over kill and wasted energy/fuel to maintain.
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Mar. 26, 2012, 04:53 AM
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I know it is a waste but it is the township zoning law. And....a township employee is one of the neighbors. .
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Mar. 26, 2012, 06:47 AM
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Mar. 26, 2012, 06:59 AM
#15
Actually i have never had a tree that I would knock down (they are still up but I give them the side ways eye every now and again) until I saw a house that would have had the best views ever ... except for the 2 trees that totally blocked the view. After semi subtile questioning it turned out they were there for sentimental reasons ... would have been down in a sec if I lived there. A quick few drills in the trunk add a bit of round up (with water) and guess what they would be dead woops. Then I would have planted something less view blocking.
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Mar. 26, 2012, 11:09 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by Bacardi1
The maple family covers a LOT of ground, & most are harmless to horses. However, the "Red Maple" is extremely toxic, & it doesn't take a lot to fatally poison a horse.
Before we planted next to our riding ring I did some research on red maple and that is what I discovered as well. Apparently it is the compound that causes the red colour of the leaf that is poisonous.
Frankly though, I predict you will have more trouble from keeping horses next to a subdivision. It just never seems to go well.
I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Mar. 29, 2012, 01:38 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by heavensdew
Most of the houses have a perimeter fence and ours will be in 25 feet. I was upset about that lost pasture space but now I have rethought it and like a double barrier between humans and horses!
It will make a nice riding spot too.
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Mar. 29, 2012, 02:11 PM
#18
it won't be a "double barrier" though with 25 feet in there and no way to block the neighbors from entering from their side of the 25 foot zone- it'll turn into a walking path/ playground/ garbage dump area. It would only be a "double barrier" if YOU put in a tall, electrified no-climb fence on the outside of the zone and also put in a fence to keep the horses in on the inside of the zone.
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Mar. 29, 2012, 02:52 PM
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Mar. 31, 2012, 10:07 AM
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 Originally Posted by lolita1
Actually i have never had a tree that I would knock down (they are still up but I give them the side ways eye every now and again) until I saw a house that would have had the best views ever ... except for the 2 trees that totally blocked the view. After semi subtile questioning it turned out they were there for sentimental reasons ... would have been down in a sec if I lived there. A quick few drills in the trunk add a bit of round up (with water) and guess what they would be dead woops. Then I would have planted something less view blocking.
Charming.
Are you related to the neighbor from the other thread that cut down the OP's trees?
If you are starting a colt and he acts up, roll up a newspaper and hit yourself over the head, saying "bad trainer, bad trainer!"--Bluey
...just settin' on the Group W bench.
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