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    Default Need help-Vets too busy!

    Sigh.

    RH subluxing after a pasture incident. I saw a bad step.

    Treated immediately, put call in to vet who did not come until next day.

    Cold hosing and warm soaking with a support bandage. Most of the heat gone as well as swelling. Vet is baffled.

    This is day 5.

    Stall confinement. Hand grazing. Walking forward fetlock does not want to drop into correct position. Backing up is almost impossible.

    Horse does not palpate with pain but he didn't when he chipped and fractured a few years back either.

    I am thinking DDFT. but perhaps not.

    I really like this horse! I don't want to miss a window of opportunity for treatment and am a bit overwhelmed at the state of things.

    Anyone?

    I have called race track trainers and everyone I can think of and have no idea when my vet will get his consult and be able to provide some insight.

    A shot in the dark here but may be worth a try.
    “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
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    It sounds like you need an ultrasound. Good luck!



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    You need xrays and an ultrasound for diagnosis. We can only speculate. If the vet who examined the horse is baffled, then I really don't think any internet dx's will help.

    Keep him stall rested until you get appropriate imaging. Unless, it's a displaced fracture, there is nothing in the acute stage you can do but rest, bute and ice while avoiding walking/activity until dx'd.

    Is the pastern in a bent forward position while weight bearing?



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    The fetlock is high and forward. He can drop it to some degree some of the time.

    The vet wanted me to trot him and yes, for the two full steps of trot, weight bearing with his toe on the ground joint cocked up in an ugly position.

    Vet was supposed to ultrasound Tuesday or Wednesday but hasn't found the time or I guess what he should look at. Said to keep on keeping on until he gets here.

    Just thought someone might have seen this and could offer some insight. Just going a bit crazy waiting and worrying.
    “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
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    That sounds disgusting. Can you take him somewhere to get it looked at?



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    Sounds like its time for a new vet.



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    I think it is a bit too dangerous to try to trailer him at this point. He certainly cannot back and I don't know that he could step up or handle a ramp.

    No one I know locally has one of those air-rides, but that would probably work.

    Like I said, a shot in the dark. There certainly are a lot of folks here, someone might have seen an injury like this.
    “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
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    He may have dislocated a joint, do you know a chiroprator?
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    Yes, I do!

    I will call him in the am! Thanks!!
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    Charlie, to suggest a chiropractor when NO diagnostics (radiographs, ultrasound) have been done is beyond irresponsible.

    None of the DVM chiros I know of carry diagnostic equipment.

    OP, PLEASE find out what is going on with your horse before you have someone blindly (ie. without aid of Xrays/ultrasound) trying to adjust the joint. They may do more harm than good.



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    A chiropractor worth the title would not even attempt to reduce a dislocation. Assuming that was something they were physically able to do by themselves with the horse standing which is very unlikely they would need xrays first and the horse would most likely have to be casted or at least put into a Robert Jones bandage to stabilize the joint once it is back into place. Get a real vet out there asap.



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    Ha, Just what do you call a chiro for?
    Enlighten me please.
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    I'll give you a hint. I don't call one in an emergency because a vet isn't available. Regardless of whether they are a DVM or not.



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    Emergency???
    day 6
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    A dislocation gets more serious as time goes by, not less. If you wait too long it can't be reduced at all and what you see is what you get which will result in a dead horse. By all means, call the chiro. And the renderer.



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    I call a horse that's unable to load on a trailer an emergency. And no chiro worth his salt would touch this horse with a 10 foot pole.
    "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanuel Kant



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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurierace View Post
    A dislocation gets more serious as time goes by, not less. If you wait too long it can't be reduced at all and what you see is what you get which will result in a dead horse. By all means, call the chiro. And the renderer.
    Read the OP.
    The vet was there, knows nothing. Stall rest ain't working. OP don't know what to do or has tried and it is not working.
    What would you suggest to the OP?
    Charlie Piccione
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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    I call a horse that's unable to load on a trailer an emergency. And no chiro worth his salt would touch this horse with a 10 foot pole.
    Around here they use hands not poles. A chiro worth his/her salt would be able to either confirm or rule out a dislocation in a matter of secounds. The horse ain't going to load on a trailer. The vet don't have time and the poster is at wits end.

    I would call my chiro ASAP.
    Charlie Piccione
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurierace View Post
    GET A DIFFERENT VET!
    That is a good suggestion but it does not seem to be an option for her.
    Charlie Piccione
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