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    Default Finding an upper-level prospect

    If you were searching for a dressage prospect with FEI potential, weanling to age four, which US breeders/farms would you be most eager to visit? Assume that the budget is too limited to import from Europe and in any case you want to support US warmblood breeders.

    Which farms breed excellent dressage horses, treat buyers honestly, offer youngsters at reasonable prices, and are just plain nice to deal with?

    Thanks for all opinions!



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    These are breeders I would want to visit if I were ever in the market for a very young horse

    Small breeders that seem to be really nice/good people with nice horses?
    http://www.homeagainfarm.com
    http://www.autumnhillfarm.com

    A large breeder and breeding facility with one of the nicest people I ever dealt with? Natalie at Hilltop
    http://www.hilltopfarminc.com/sales_...offerings.html

    A breeder that I hear is nice, and I drool over the young horses listed for sale?
    http://www.oakwoodhanoverian.com

    I don't personally know any of these breeders but like the video of the offspring they have had. I would probably start with just a few really good brewers and try to make connections from there..



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    Hmmm...I'd take a close look at this little guy from one of the links above...double Weltmeyer...little guy can mooove; especially toward the end of the video. Just sayin'.

    http://www.oakwoodhanoverian.com/Sal...lkenstina.html



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    I'd look at Madeline and Liz Austin's horses, Crosiadore farm, or Huntington farm
    http://imajica.net/home.html
    http://www.crosiadorefarm.com/Crosia...arm/Sales.html
    http://www.huntingtonfarm.com/home.html



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    I second Oakwood Hanoverians at http://www.oakwoodhanoverian.com/. I have met Meg, the owner, and she is a lovely horsewoman with some incredible offspring and I would trust her to honestly represent her horses. I have also met Widmark and seen him work, and I can say without a doubt that I would give any of his offspring serious consideration. He is a high quality stallion who also possesses great character and fantastic rideability. Oakwood would be on the top of my list!



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    Hi,

    I'm no pro, but I follow sport horse breeding and I totally agree about crosiadore. To that I would add Yancey Farm http://yancey-farms.com/ and Rolling Stone Farm rollingstonefarm.com. At RSF, take a look at Rheporter's and her babies. She is the wow-est mare I've ever seen and she cleaned up at Devon last year...
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    i think i would spend some time researching who the sires are the produce FEI horses, then i would do research on who has offspring by those sires in your age group and then do research on the mare lines....

    then, i would look at the animals in question and try to be objective.

    more and more i think that the only way to really hedge your bet is to go with solid proven lines.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by staceyk View Post
    Hi,

    I'm no pro, but I follow sport horse breeding and I totally agree about crosiadore. To that I would add Yancey Farm http://yancey-farms.com/ and Rolling Stone Farm rollingstonefarm.com. At RSF, take a look at Rheporter's and her babies. She is the wow-est mare I've ever seen and she cleaned up at Devon last year...
    I agree about all 3 of those farms, but they tend to be in the more expensive category (at least for me!) The prices may be reasonable for the quality, but I took "reasonable" to be someone on a bit of a budget. Then again, if you really are willing to buy a weanling you might end up with a good deal. I go to the Rolling Stone website just for entertainment, it's like horse lover porn.

    There is a mare for sale at Crosiadore I would buy in a second if I were shopping and could afford her!

    Personally, good bloodlines are important, but IMO even MORE important than that is buying from someone who truly knows how to feed and manage broodmares and foals. I bought a horse with wonderful bloodlines and amazing movement that suffered from issues caused by poor management practices. Proper nutrition and management are #1 on my list, and a history of turning out sound and sane horses.
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    This guy has been on my "if I were going to look for a WB prospect"...

    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/list...gs/l0368.shtml



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    Quote Originally Posted by fairtheewell View Post
    This guy has been on my "if I were going to look for a WB prospect"...

    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/list...gs/l0368.shtml
    Oh he is nice! I never looked at the weanlings on that site, that is a good price! I take back my remarks about expensive.



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    Where are you located? Many of the breeders mentioned on this thread are in the mid-atlantic and are within a 2-3 hour drive of one another, so much like a drive to Europe you can see many foals on one trip.

    I agree that it is wise to research some bloodlines that interest you which might help narrow your focus a bit. I know all of the breeders mentioned and I think they would enjoy showing their youngstock off to a serious buyer who was looking for a future show horse that further promotes their breeding program.
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    i also think that unless you are a VERY good judge of horse flesh, and have expert advice from a variety of reliable sources, that buying less than say a 2 or 3 year old is quite a risky adventure.

    you dont really have any idea, when they younger how they will turn out.

    if you have the $$ i think better to buy a more mature horse so you have a better idea what you are getting

    they just change so much from even 1.5 to 4 ..... or even, for that matter - from 4 to 10



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    I *second* mbm's comment that finding breeders that take mare and foal nutrtion and turnout seriously is a BIG first step. Unfortunately there are some people out there, that no matter how much $$ they seem to have, they try to cut corners in the oddest ways.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BaroquePony View Post
    I *second* mbm's comment that finding breeders that take mare and foal nutrtion and turnout seriously is a BIG first step. Unfortunately there are some people out there, that no matter how much $$ they seem to have, they try to cut corners in the oddest ways.
    That was my point, and I honestly don't think it's about cutting corners, I think it's ignorance.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mbm View Post
    i also think that unless you are a VERY good judge of horse flesh, and have expert advice from a variety of reliable sources, that buying less than say a 2 or 3 year old is quite a risky adventure.

    you dont really have any idea, when they younger how they will turn out.

    if you have the $$ i think better to buy a more mature horse so you have a better idea what you are getting

    they just change so much from even 1.5 to 4 ..... or even, for that matter - from 4 to 10
    This is so true. My ugliest foal who never took a step of trot until she was 18 months old has turned out to be an upper level prospect. Now she has 3 excellent gaits and super natural self-carriage and balance.
    I have two others who were beautiful foals that while they are nice horses, well one is not an upper level prospect although she is very pretty and has a great mind, and the other is not yet 3 so the jury is still out on him, but he is not as amazing as he was as a foal.
    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.



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