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    Default Sole vs. peripheral weight bearing with video!

    If this has already been shared I apologize:

    They call the video "The Final Proof" and the narration is annoying as all get out - I mean, they seem to be reinventing the wheel and they're very excited about it - but the footage is very interesting from a biomechanical stand point. The video is graphic and features some blood and gore:

    The Final Proof
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    That video has been round awhile , and it is a total crock of dung.
    WHY? I will tell you.
    1) When you cut a hoof in half you immediatly disconnect and destroy its natural support structures, normal function and movement. It is like sawing off half of a bridge then wondering why the bridge collapses.
    2) no hoof is truly perimeter loaded unless THREE things are in effect all at the ame time. those are:
    a) the foot is trimmed or shod in a manner that the frog is not reaching the ground AND
    b) the hoof is cleaned out of dirt (dirt supports the frog and sole)
    AND
    c) the foot is stood on concrete or other non yeilding surface.

    ALL THREE THINGS MUST BE THERE. THEREFORE PROBABLY 99.99999% OF HORSES' HOOVES ARE NOT PERIMETER LOADED, EVEN THE SHOD ONES.

    The INSTANT a horse places his cleaned out, shod foot into DIRT, it is filled with dirt again and no longer perimeter loaded.

    There are easy ways to shoe horses that maintain frog support and function.

    And the other crock of dung in regards to that video is that horses are not overloading their hooves in hydraulic presses.

    there . my soapbox on garbage hoof misinformation for today.
    Last edited by Patty Stiller; Jan. 11, 2012 at 11:17 AM. Reason: bad typing as usual
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    Take a wheel off your car, cut it in half, and then put it in a press....



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    I had those same thoughts as well. I appreciate their efforts to demonstrate their beliefs but could not understand how it couldn't alter things when you take away half the foot.



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    My thoughts were that the video is interesting, but the claim that they've proven something...anything...and the sensational narrative really detract from the entire demonstration. I really hope that anyone viewing this understands that hacking the foot in half instantly changes the internal and external dynamics under a load. I can't believe those Swedish farriers don't seem concerned about that.
    "Absent a correct diagnosis, medicine is poison, surgery is trauma and alternative therapy is witchcraft" A. Kent Allen
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    I guess the right way would have been to do it via x-rays.
    That would prove or disprove the theory.
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    The narrator has a product (his school and tits philosophy of hoof care) to sell. Like 'Professor' Harold Hill, the narrator is preying on/counting on the naivete of his audience.

    There is indeed trouble in River City and it starts with a "T" and rhymes with "G" and stands for garbage like that video.(my apologies to Meredith Willson)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Burten View Post
    The narrator has a product (his school and tits philosophy of hoof care) to sell. Like 'Professor' Harold Hill, the narrator is preying on/counting on the naivete of his audience.

    There is indeed trouble in River City and it starts with a "T" and rhymes with "G" and stands for garbage like that video.(my apologies to Meredith Willson)
    New one?
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    Yeah, I gotta do a better job of proofreading. Even spell checker didn't catch that one Besides, like Professor Hill observed, "it starts with a "T"......LOL.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Burten View Post
    The narrator has a product (his school and tits philosophy of hoof care) to sell. Like 'Professor' Harold Hill, the narrator is preying on/counting on the naivete of his audience.

    There is indeed trouble in River City and it starts with a "T" and rhymes with "G" and stands for garbage like that video.(my apologies to Meredith Willson)
    I LOVE the Music Man! Great movie! I'd love to see it done as a live show sometime.
    "Absent a correct diagnosis, medicine is poison, surgery is trauma and alternative therapy is witchcraft" A. Kent Allen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Burten View Post
    Yeah, I gotta do a better job of proofreading. Even spell checker didn't catch that one Besides, like Professor Hill observed, "it starts with a "T"......LOL.
    You have to admit it would be an interesting hoof care class.
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    Indeed!



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    can't believe those Swedish farriers don't seem concerned about that.
    It is because the people who run that school are not farriers. They are barefoot trimmers with a misguided agenda.
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    And Rick ,I follow tits philosophy of hoofcare.......I keep 'em bound up and out of the way when working on hooves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty Stiller View Post
    And Rick ,I follow tits philosophy of hoofcare.......I keep 'em bound up and out of the way when working on hooves.
    Hmmmmmm, its [past] time for some 'field research'. I'll write the grant if you, et al grant the right.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty Stiller View Post
    And Rick ,I follow tits philosophy of hoofcare.......I keep 'em bound up and out of the way when working on hooves.
    Damn....I just had the keys cleaned!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Burten View Post
    Hmmmmmm, its [past] time for some 'field research'. I'll write the grant if you, et al grant the right.
    Are you going to request peer review of this field research??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Piccione View Post
    Are you going to request peer review of this field research??
    Yes, but only after I complete numerous double blind studies with a wide range of subjects. Once I have done that and published my findings it will be up to others to see if they can duplicate my results. OTOH, perhaps I should just start with the philosophy and start a new [hands on] religion. There would be numerous advantages including tax relief . Of course, you would then have to accurately define 'tax'. I think Bill Clinton would apply to be a deacon in my house of worship.....



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    [QUOTE=Rick Burten;6075655]Yes, but only after I complete numerous double blind studies with a wide range of subjects.QUOTE]

    Rick, cover BOTH eyes?
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    Indeed. Tactile research not to be influenced by visual input.



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