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    Default When you find something dead in a bale of hay, how much do you toss?

    Found a dead vole in a bale of hay, and I tossed the flake with the vole, but do I toss the flake next to that one too if it seems OK?

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    We had a dead vole also a couple of weeks ago. We threw out the flakes around it also.
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    If it was a mummified dead thing I'd toss the flake to either side.

    If it was a freshly-dead/still squishy thing I'd toss the bale rather than risk botulism*.

    *I'm no expert, but Google search seems to state botulism toxin cannot survive long exposed to air
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    Yeah, it was so dead, it took a minute to realize what it was. I had already fed the flak on one side, tossed the flake with the vole and the next.



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    I'd toss the whole thing. I don't know very much about botulism, but I'd rather not risk it!



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    While I realize that these days hay is like gold, I too would either return the bale (minus the dead body) to the vendor, or toss it. Actually, I don't really "toss" them - I either add them to my compost pile or spread them around my trees as mulch/fertilizer.

    Believe it or not, I once found a whole dead rabbit inside a bale of hay, & when I next returned to my "former" hay/feed dealer & ask for a credit (the bale was a whole $5), they actually asked me to bring them the dead rabbit!!! Like I was lying awake at night thinking of ways to cheat them out of a $5 bale of hay that was part of a $300 load - lol!!!! I told them that I'd buried it in my compost pile & had no plans to dig it back up for verification. They did begrudgingly credit me the $5, & I switched hay vendors immediately thereafter. Geesh.



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    Depending on the size of the bale, I'd toss at least 2 flakes on either side.

    With the way hay supplies are getting this year, I put out a round bale and decided to bite the bullet and do the botulism vaccines for my 2, especially since I have 2 other people feeding who just aren't as careful as I'd like. Since its their first time its a series of 3 boosters ($$$), but worth it.



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    Many years ago, one of out group noticed an Appaloosa gelding in the barn that was ignoring his dinner hay. Thinking he was colicky, I stepped into the stall to investigate. The horse seemed fine, but kept his back to the hay that had just been tossed on the floor. I went over, kicked the flakes to see if they were bad, and out popped the back half of a calf!

    Needless to say, we removed that awful thing, all his hay, and replaced it with fresh hay.

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    I don't think I'd ever touch hay after that Beas...

    Throw it in the compost and it won't be going to waste at least.
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