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    If you are interested, I would encourage you to contact the office for the specifics. There is a sizeable management team in place with impeccable credentials that they can review with you.



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    Just a quick note to clarify, the prior trainers have 120 days to vacate the home on the farm site, but are not allowed in the barns or arenas period. Those areas are exclusively under the control of the new management team and no one else.



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    Well it appears the breeding business will continues and many of the postings have been either verified or negated.

    Perhaps the owners and transition team were waiting to make a public announcement when they had all the details worked out. Perhaps patience in this situation is the missing ingredient.

    Whether people like the someone or not - you should consider the owners of the farm might need time to re-group when they make a change in management and not want bits and pieces of information and also mis-information put on BB's like this. Certainly the woman who owns the property deserves this consideration. And quite honestly I still don't know what her political donations have to do with anything at all. Nor does the name & address of where the real estate tax bill goes.
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    No matter what happened, I think it would be only the best to wait until the Blackmond's are out of the facility before someone comes in a starts saying...."Were new, were taking over".....

    I feel more for the people in the middle...the boarders, trainers and such! Its a bad situation for them.

    "The winds of change.....can sure mess up your hair"


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    Thank you, Francie. I think my friend has made contact with someone at Stargate regarding Bergamon. I hope everything works out for the best for everyone involved.



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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by bekind:
    I was a boarder, they did not get escorted off the property. They can be there for 4 mths. They still have 14 horses of their own, and will be working on getting a new location. If anyone is interested in contacting Lisa or Jackie you may do so at 940-367-7499 or 940-367-7815.

    The actual rider/horse owner of the "real owners" was not interested any more. She only came out 4 times, even during the building process. Nothing has been decided about the horses that Highland Stargate owns. They have a transition team in. The only thing said at the meeting for all boarders this morning is "we will be a boarding facility now".

    It is true some of the boarders were scrambling, as the transition team had alot of difficulty. i.e. stallion was turned out next to neighbors mares instead of in the paddocks designed for them.
    "Breeding season is over for this year" (they came from a TB farm)

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    This information sounds like it came from Lisa and Jackie Blackmon's attempt at "damage control". First off, I personally find it hard to believe that the Blackmons "owned" 14 horses. I could believe that there were 14 horses for sale at Stargate which would yield a commission to them, and in a twisted way they claim ownership interest. Or maybe there are 14 boarder's horses who are a source of lesson income to Lisa and so they "belong" to her. Naturally it is in the Blackmon's interest for all boarders to think the place will be poorly managed in the future, with an absentee owner, and nothing going on other than boarding. I would guess that the Blackmon's bread and butter, at least in the immediate future, would come from whatever boarders/students they can take with them.



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    Simmer down, people.

    I think there have been enough unsubstantiated rumors posted already. Let's not get into further speculation or hypotheses about what "really happened," please.



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    Slightly off the subject - anyone know anything about the stargate sale horse st. simmon?



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    By ise@ssl--

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I still don't know<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I think this sums things up nicely for you ise@ssl.
    It's all fun and games until someone pulls a shoe....



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    I just got off the phone with one of the transition team members. I know her well and can tell you that You can all calm down. The facility will be fine and is in good hands. They will put customer service first and the boarders who choose to stay should be very happy. They will be interviewing new trainers (top FEI levels) soon.

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    Boy - would I love to interview there! But I'm certainly not qualified for their trainer position. What a dream facility tho!

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    I'm so glad that we have Ilona here to tell us what we "mean" to say and the PC thing to do!
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wildcat:
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by bekind:
    I was a boarder, they did not get escorted off the property. They can be there for 4 mths. They still have 14 horses of their own, and will be working on getting a new location. If anyone is interested in contacting Lisa or Jackie you may do so at 940-367-7499 or 940-367-7815.

    The actual rider/horse owner of the "real owners" was not interested any more. She only came out 4 times, even during the building process. Nothing has been decided about the horses that Highland Stargate owns. They have a transition team in. The only thing said at the meeting for all boarders this morning is "we will be a boarding facility now".

    It is true some of the boarders were scrambling, as the transition team had alot of difficulty. i.e. stallion was turned out next to neighbors mares instead of in the paddocks designed for them.
    "Breeding season is over for this year" (they came from a TB farm)

    __________

    This information sounds like it came from Lisa and Jackie Blackmon's attempt at "damage control". First off, I personally find it hard to believe that the Blackmons "owned" 14 horses. I could believe that there were 14 horses for sale at Stargate which would yield a commission to them, and in a twisted way they claim ownership interest. Or maybe there are 14 boarder's horses who are a source of lesson income to Lisa and so they "belong" to her. Naturally it is in the Blackmon's interest for all boarders to think the place will be poorly managed in the future, with an absentee owner, and nothing going on other than boarding. I would guess that the Blackmon's bread and butter, at least in the immediate future, would come from whatever boarders/students they can take with them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Equibrit:
    I'm so glad that we have Ilona here to tell us what we "mean" to say and the PC thing to do!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Equibrit-

    Oh my - she sent me a nasty email! She told me I was wierd (bless her heart http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...n_rolleyes.gif - I've been called worse http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...on_biggrin.gif).

    Has anyone else been so blessed or am I the only victim in Ilona's quest to right the wrongs of the horse world?
    It's all fun and games until someone pulls a shoe....



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    It's rather funny you should mention that....a few years ago on the wb-sporthorse egroups list a rather interesting email was spamed to everyone. Its really a pity that the yahoo account was deleted as I saved in my favorites to remember someone by. You really learn about people from watching.

    Cadbury egg anyone?

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    a balanced diet?\"



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    Gee Fallbrook -
    why mis-represent what I emailed - afterall I do have a copy of it you know. What I said was that I thought was just plain weird that you looked up who the real estate tax bill was sent to. LET'S NOT POST MIS-STATEMENTS.

    Also I stated here and to you that those of you who seem to dislike the Blackmons NEVER FOR A MOMENT considered the owner of Stargate Farms. "YOu just went off in a rant". It's unfortunate that you just couldn't let the owner re-organize and have the chance to present the FACTS on what was happening. Read back through this thread (Erin even noted) and there's a lot of opinion, conjecture and supposition. Whomever owns Stargate Farms has a BUSINESS. It involves breedings stallions as well as other activities. If someone read the first post here by Chris Hutchings - they would certainly have reason to be upset if they have breeding contracts. Why not let the OWNER - it was noted here she's a very nice person - have a chance to get re-oranized and contact these people directly as the new plan is in place.

    Maybe the topic line on the original post should note there are updates.

    Jump all over me if you'd like - but put yourself in the place of the OWNER of the farm - who may get feedback from this thread with a great deal of angst about it. I can hear the rumors now "Oh did you hear Stargate Farms closed", "oh no one is responding to questions about breeding to their stallions". Rumors always seem to travel faster than fact.

    If you want to "black-eye" the Blackmons then leave Stargate Farms out of it - I'm sure they have enough on their hands with a re-organization of management and breeding season starting - than to hear people are making all kinds of "I heards" on this BB.

    The real estate tax bill and political contributions was - IMHO - totally un-necessary. FYI - many commercial real estate tax bills are NOT sent to the owner of the property.

    Oh!
    And for the records - here is the email I sent to Fallbrook:
    "What in God's name does donations to George Bush have to do with the thread on the BB? If you can show me how it's relevant - please do. And what DO YOU KNOW? I think it's just plain weird that you look up people's real estate tax records. Yes just weird.
    Mine BTW are paid by myself and my husband ...........and yours?

    What happens to the Blackmons - happens. But you southern gals - never ever considered that your posts didn't help the OWNER ONE SINGLE BIT!! "

    YOu want to see nasty - look at the posts you and Equibrit have made here - PERSONALLY AGAINST ME. I thought personal remarks were not allowed Erin?
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    Now - don't get your knickers in a twist!
    How could you possibly entertain having an opinion on what other people on this board "mean". And as far as I know free speech is still permitted in this country (you obviously think differently) It doesn't much matter where gossip occurs; the fact is that it is going to happen and there is little or nothing you can do about it. Whatever you may think is correct really matters very little to anybody else. So - put your hormones away and please don't preach to others.
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    Good Lord folks- get a grip!



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    Sorry Equibrit this isn't about hormones - it's about business.

    It's the beginning of breeding season. People are making decisions on which stallions they will breed to and as a mare owner and breeder for 17 years now - I can tell you it's not unusual for people to shy away from situations that may affect the service they receive.

    Perhaps this thread should have been What's happening with the Blackmon's - it appears that what is was?

    I again ask - how would you feel if you had a HUGE investment in a farm with breeding stallions and you were going through a management change that may or may not be complicated and/or friendly and people who don't identify themselves make observations or report comments from others (also un-identifed) as to what may or may not be happening?? What if people read the first page - had a breeding contract w/check ready to go and thought...."maybe I should re-think this?". Afterall unless they read the entire thread - which very often people don't - they wouldn't have seen that the person interested in one stallion DID get a response.

    Also consider we are in a very heated political year and it apparantely seemed relevant to post who the owner of this farm supports politically. Can we have the same information on all farms standing WB stallions - just to make it fair???? Maybe some people don't want to send money that may end up on the Democratic side!!!

    Pretty sad the women - would tell women - to get their hormones in check just because they present an opposing point of view.

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    Call me silly but if I were really interested in a stallion they had at Stargate and I read this thread- I would just pick up the phone and call them to make sure he was still available etc. I don't think this thread would have had me running for the hills or thinking I should pass on him.



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