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    Actually I was kinda impressed/ scared that Fallbrook could find that info so easily. My own limited computer pecking would never have pulled that up!

    I don't know what her involvement was with ISR/OldNa except that she hosted the inspection for the past 2 years (I attended the first year).



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    Does anyone know if the Walter Zettle clinic in Mid march to be held at Stargate will be cancelled due to all this?

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    Sonesta - I was thinking the same thing!

    I am looking at a 3-yr-old that an Austin breeder has for sale. Trying to set up a 2nd visit and she said the only bad weekend in March was Mar 12-14 because of the Walter Zettl clinic. I e-mailed her back that I hoped what was going on at Stargate doesn't affect the clinic.

    Surely they can find an alternative site if need be. Although it is short notice. Wonder who is handling this and if they are aware of the whole situation?
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    Who knows, the facility mihg tbe back up by then. For now, it's speculation.

    USDF has used Noble Champion Farm for some events in the past and it's also in the metroplex.



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    FYI - Ms. Falbrook and Ms. Equibrit - I've never met Mr. Blackmon & I met Ms. Blackmon at DAD - sat in a 4 hour Board meeting with her and had a casual conversaton with her at DAD the next day for 10 minutes. I never quized her on who owns the farm she works for or who pays the real estate taxes on it - not my business and I certainly wouldn't answer these quesitons if someone asked me!!!

    As I stated - Trainers leaving facilities is nothing new - but I just feel that when it comes to individual's employment and what the circumstances are surrounding that - people should know the sources of what they post and be willing to state them. I posted the exact same comment when a post was made years about about a trainer leaving Paxton Farms and people were giving their impression of why it had happenend.

    I've never wondered who owns certain farms or who gets the real estate tax bill (especially half way across the country) enough to look this information up.

    And I'm still trying to figure out what George Bush has to do with all of this?? http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...n_confused.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...n_confused.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...n_confused.gif

    Didn't another trainer leave the big breeding/training farm (also in Texas) owned by Melanie Pai? It happens - all the time.
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    Maybe if you knew her better you would understand the curiousity!

    BTW - all the information posted here is readily available and in the public domain. Nobody has offered any opinion as to the reason for the Blackmon's departure. They have merely commented on ownership of the farm. So why are you having a cow?
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    FYI...The sole owner of Stargate is Sam Wyly's daughter. The Blackmon's never owned the farm even though they let people, including the USDF and USA Equestrian. I know all parties involved and IT IS ABOUT TIME! It is a beautiful facility and the owner is an extremely nice lady. She was treated VERY badly and did not deserve it.



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    Can't say I'm surprised!
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    Jumpclear if you know the nice lady owner, please tell her Bergamon can come live with me http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_smile.gif



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    OK...so the rumors must be true. The next question....who is left behind at Stargate to manage the horses? Will there be a new trainer/stallion manager or will the horses be sold and/or relocated? Does the "nice lady owner" have someone trustworthy advising her?



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    Anyone hear the real story as to why the Blackmon's were "escorted" off the property and by what type of "escortors"? private? police?

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    Jumpclear- I dont know who Sam Wyly is but even over here in the midwest I knew the Blackmon's were not the "owners". But how do we give credit to the nice lady owner if we dont even know her name?
    My only question will this change of management change the availability of the stallions?


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    FYI...The sole owner of Stargate is Sam Wyly's daughter. The Blackmon's never owned the farm even though they let people, including the USDF and USA Equestrian. I know all parties involved and IT IS ABOUT TIME! It is a beautiful facility and the owner is an extremely nice lady. She was treated VERY badly and did not deserve it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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    Equibrit - so what you really want to post here is that you don't like these people and your are glad they lost their jobs. Why not just post that.

    I never thought about whether they owned the farm or not - many big farms are not owned by the managers/trainers. Many owners DON'T want to be in the spotlight or identified all the time.

    It doesn't affect me who owns or manages Stargate Farm - I don't breed to their stallions. I just get the underlying thread here - is they lost their jobs and some people are happy about that but those who are happy have danced around about saying just that.
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    I am sure that some of the interest is legitimate concern as to what is going to happen with the stallions.



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    FWIW, I heard the same thing as Cyriz's Mom about the circumstances surrounding the Blackmons' departure from Stargate (the info came from a boarder at Stargate). I agree that it is a very sad state of affairs, but I have to say that it came as no surprise to those of us who know a bit about the Blackmons' background. They were in our area for a good number of years before taking the Stargate job (in fact, they leased a facility just down the road from us), and there are quite a few of us here who can, ummm, tell some VEDDY interesting stories about them. Actually, it was pretty common knowledge in our area that they were not the owners at Stargate, and a lot of people here are shaking their heads about the fact that - first off, they landed the job with Stargate, and secondly, that they had so many people duped for so long - including (for a while anyway) the "powers that be" at USDF and USAE. Regarding WHY they were let go - maybe had something to do with the fact that they were sponsoring events and awarding contracts (including some regarding the USDF convention and other events ) that had not been authorized by the actual owners. All in all, it's a very unfortunate situation, and I hope that the real owners aren't so soured on the sporthorse world that they close the facility completely, or turn it into a Saddlebred or Paso Fino operation (or whatever).

    And, Ilona - I'm not happy one way or the other. Love 'em or hate 'em, Lisa and Jackie could talk a good game, and, on the one hand, they did help turn Stargate into a gorgeous sporthorse facility - thereby providing a wonderful venue for the Wilcox/Hoyos symposium - but on the other hand, I REALLY hate to see people get taken advantage of. However, as my grandmother always said - "everything happens for a reason", and maybe one day we'll figure out the reason for all this.



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    Thank you for your explanantion Sporthorse South. Now what I am curious to know at this time, was this facility in existence before the Blackmon's took over as trainers, or was it all constructed at about the same time???? Don't know what is happening in Texas when we're far away in ole Virginny!!

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    I was a boarder, they did not get escorted off the property. They can be there for 4 mths. They still have 14 horses of their own, and will be working on getting a new location. If anyone is interested in contacting Lisa or Jackie you may do so at 940-367-7499 or 940-367-7815.

    The actual rider/horse owner of the "real owners" was not interested any more. She only came out 4 times, even during the building process. Nothing has been decided about the horses that Highland Stargate owns. They have a transition team in. The only thing said at the meeting for all boarders this morning is "we will be a boarding facility now".

    It is true some of the boarders were scrambling, as the transition team had alot of difficulty. i.e. stallion was turned out next to neighbors mares instead of in the paddocks designed for them.
    "Breeding season is over for this year" (they came from a TB farm)

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    Sporthorse South..As you say..."
    I agree that it is a very sad state of affairs, but I have to say that it came as no surprise to those of us who know a bit about the Blackmons' background. They were in our area for a good number of years before taking the Stargate job (in fact, they leased a facility just down the road from us), and there are quite a few of us here who can, ummm, tell some VEDDY interesting stories about them. "

    You are very correct. These people have quite a reputation in their wake in Texas and in GA.

    Bekkind...Emily didn't come to the barn because she did not feel comfortable or welcome at her own facility. It was/is not for lack of interest. She was very misrable about the situation. Don't believe the stories you hear from your trainer.



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    Yes it is true that the Blackmons did not own Stargate. Yes it is a holding of the Wyly family. Period. Yes they were terminated with very good cause and lots of it. And as to the "boarder" and turning into a boarding barn, that is misleading information. A new and highly competent management team is now in place. It will remain a client oriented dressage facility, not a "boarding stable". The search is on for a competent dressage instructor, of a significant level, to lead Stargate in the direction it has always wanted to be in. The management team has EXTENSIVE reproduction experience and the stallions remain as previously advertised. Not only is it business as usual, but at least a 1000% improvement in both the competency and quality of the staff has been assured and delivered. There will always be the unhappy few, but you can count them of the fingers of one hand. The commitment is there by the owners of maintaining a world class facility. The Zettl clinic is on. Contact #s are 940-241-1120 refer to Rosalyn.



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    So please tell us who the new management team is!

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