Welcome to COTH! This subject has been covered before, so I did a quick search for you and posted links to some older threads below...These links might be useful to you and I'm sure you'll get some feedback on your thread as this tends to be a pretty controversial subject! http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/yes.gif
I used one in the past more for entertainment than as a means to gather real information from my horse. It was fun and I'd do it again, but I wouldn't put too much stock in what the communicator tells me -- I am still pretty skeptical about it.
mmmm hmmm. Similar experience. The person I talked to told me that my horse really worried about jumping if I didn't get him to the right spot (huh? This is a horse for whom no spot is a bad spot!), that he really liked the small chestnut he was turned out with (there are 2 chestnuts he's turned out with, both of whom are bigger than he is!) and - when I asked her if he liked his feed, which he hadn't been eating for about a month - that he loooooved his feed. I had to call her on that one, and told her that in fact one of the reasons I'd called was to find out why he wasn't eating, when he'd always been a chow hound!! At that point, she admitted that she must be communicating with the wrong horse, and told me that she was destroying the tape of the call (which I'd have paid for just because she was soooo far off base!!) and wouldn't charge me for it. He he he!! It was very funny, actually, though it helps that it was free. http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/lol.gif
I did it for fun - wouldn't do it again. It was hogwash and a waste of money. The woman just kept pushing her book(s) and was adamant that I should do a "natural trim" on my horse...weird. Also, didn't catch the fact that he had an injury in his right stifle or refer to the fact that I had just moved him, then moved him back to his first barn. She may or may not be on this board but if anyone wants her name, just PT me.
CG, I have, and had very good results with the woman I used. Here's what\how I did it and why I thought it was 100% accurate:
I have a horse who, when I got him, was angry, nasty, and had specific problems moving and bending to the right. in fact, if you tried to make him do ANYthing to the right, you risked him biting your toes off..>SERIOUSLY. He had some other physcial issues that were not normal. He and I were not hitting it off, and I was trying for one last chance to find a reason for his dangerous behavior.
I contacted the AC who I was referred to by a very good and very knowledgable trainer friend. I told her only :
Name, color and breed of horse
And asked a vague question : "Do you hurt anywhere?" I also asked why he was so unhappy on trails.
When the AC got back to me with the 'answers', based on her only knowing the above, she 100% accurately described his atypical behavior, his particular attacking issue and what provoked it, and told me where he hurt. These were not generalizations that, if you knew what a horse looked like, you would have been able to 'get over' on me. She told me about his time at the trainer's, and how he was hurt there, by the rough training. The previous owner afterwards confirmed.... http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...s/icon_eek.gif
I had an acupuncturer come out, and also a massage therapist. They both said he was extremely tight and sore EXACTLY where the AC had said he was hurting. (BTW I had never used these therapies on a horse before, and these people had never seen this horse- I also didn't mention the AC). Within a month his behaviors were gone (though he's still 'angry' at working occasionally, mostly because he's as lazy as I am), and now, 2+ years later, I trust my DH on him. He's a wonderful horse with a ton of personality.
I believe the AC I used was dead on, and she had zero to go by (by design). I had discussed this horse with no one anywhere, and she was on the other coast from me.
Proud owner of one Lunar acre! (Campanus Crater, The Moon)
You asked if he hurt because you already suspected that he did, so she gave you the answer you wanted and then you were motivated to find the solution. At least that's how it sounds. Animal communicators only read the owners--if the owners give them information so they can pretend to be psychic and feed them what they want to hear.
The one I had talk to my horse about a month ago does not give you a chance to say much of anything. She just takes off, non-stop. She told me stuff about my horse that I knew that there is no way she could have known. She also told me some things I did not know about him before I owned him. Towards the end I was able to ask a few questions. I wanted to know about a horse that my horse had been close to and died. Before I could get any information to her she said that my horse knows the other horse had crossed over.
Rum Car 2/15/72-1/13/05
Rest in peace, beautiful boy
Well, I'm not a dyed in the wool believer, but from my horse's name, sex, and age, and the question "is she sore anywhere?" an animal communicator went through a nose-to-tail list of "owie here, owie here" (my horse is very methodical and kind of a wuss), which included describing two vertebrae which were out (which my chiropractor confirmed two weeks later and telling me my saddle was rocking (saddle fitter confirmed that) and making it hard for my mare to use her hind legs like I was asking her to. She also said my horse evented (she's a hanoverian, if she'd been guessing she'd have said dressage!) from the jumps my mare was "showing" her. Who knows? It was fun, and interesting, and so far as I can tell 100% accurate.
I worked as a groom years ago for a pretty fancy owner who had a trainer on salary - so if she wanted something done it got done. Wonderful lady, I loved her to death. One time, she had me field a call from an animal communicator and hold the phone up to the horse's ear so the AC could read the horses "thoughts." We at the barn never did hear the results, the AC reported those directly to the owner who for some reason never relayed them to us. To each his own, and I do watch the woman on Pet Psychic and am amazed at how she does pick up on some oddball things that seemingly she should never know about.
Jessi Pizzurro ~~ Pennyroyal Stables
Racehorses, OTTBs ~~ 330 383 1281
Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway. -- John Wayne
The issue is that some of us don't beleive- and never will- that it was real. These people do this for a living- they're bound to be able to trick people efficeiently after a while, and that's all I believe it is. And, I mean, if you give something where thousands of these are being made a day, then yes, some are BOUND to be right simply because of the sheer volume. It's nothing to do with any "ability" (http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/lol.gif) they have.
Velvet is right. It is "cold reading" of the owner, plus, if they are "in person" types who actually see/handle the animal, a certain amount of feeling for animal behavior and body language. Nothing more.
I would love to have one of these people come to the barn, say - That's the horse in the stall right there - communicate with him and tell me what he says. Then go into the house without telling her the nature or even IF there is a problem. I'd sure love to see how much "communication" they accomplish with NO REACTION from the owner. And these ones who operate over the telephone - give me strength! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...n_rolleyes.gif P. T. Barnum was right.
I love the one who did a freebie on my old App as a demo. She opened the stall door, and he tried to walk out right over the top of her (he was 16.3, about 1,500 lbs.) "This is a very agressive horse," she psychically intuited. http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...s/winkgrin.gif Gee, I knew that. I must be psychic too!
This woman told me that my horse loved the birthday party he had and wanted another one. This was before I had a chance to get a word in. My horse had a birhtday party more than two years ago. I had almost forgotten about it until she mentioned it. Now how could she have known that?
Rum Car 2/15/72-1/13/05
Rest in peace, beautiful boy
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Melelio:
I contacted the AC who I was referred to by a very good and very knowledgable trainer friend. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ooooooh, I'm sorry, and I have a nasty suspicious mind (yep, I'll admit it! http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/yes.gif), but this isn't quite the same thing as picking one out of the yellow pages that really and truly stands no chance of knowing anything about you or your horse.....
"The way to gain a good reputation is to endeavor to be what you desire to appear" ~ Socrates
We had one come through the barn at Colonial Downs one year (no surprise, all kinds of oddities come out of the woods for that meet)...pretty brave of her, I thought, knowing race trainers.
All most wanted to know tounge-in-cheek was stuff like "This horse is in today. He gonna win?" Poor woman was pretty flustered before getting to end of shedrow, guess she couldn't read people very well http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...s/winkgrin.gif
"There's a fine line between genius and madness. I've removed that line." -Super Genius/me