Well I spent the money on these from a very small tack shop near me, and within the first ride with them on I got back and she had ripped one off (never to be found again) and the other had rips on it with holds and little chunks out. Contacted the company they asked for photos. Took photos of the one boot I had left, since I never found the other again!, and then never heard from them again. Tried to contact them repeatedly and still never heard back after sending pictures. So I am out $50 for fancy boots that never made it past one ride