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    Does anyone watch this? Tivo recorded it for me so I'm watching and it is a couple working with PP. The man is on a grey horse and the woman on a bay. It looks like they are tied to their saddles....anyone notice that? Are they? Isn't that dangerous??!!
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    Does anyone watch this? Tivo recorded it for me so I'm watching and it is a couple working with PP. The man is on a grey horse and the woman on a bay. It looks like they are tied to their saddles....anyone notice that? Are they? Isn't that dangerous??!!
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    I'd love to hog tie a few of their people that drive way too FAST through the neighborhood! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...s/icon_mad.gif



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    Huh?

    I saw that, but i don't remember them being tied to their saddles. I highly doubt they were.



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    I've seen several of them. Not sure but maybe you mean the lead line that is tucked under their belt? The mecate reins have an attached lead line. The don't tie it to the saddle but tuck it under their belt. I seem to remember they do that so if there is an unexpected dismount you still can get to the lead rope but it's a dim memory.
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    OK, it's being re-run right now...and I concur that it certainly looks like the mecate is wrapped around the horn and then tied to rider's belt loops.

    Whether it is or not, this is the most asinine thing I've ever seen...

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    It may be around the saddle.

    As someone else said, you can also push it up through your belt so if you dismount you still have something to hold the horse.
    There is a way to do that so it comes out and isn't dangerous.
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    lot of the western folk use them, very handy on the trail they say. i have to admit, i didn't know what they were until recently but when i read this post, i laughed so hard i think i wet my pants!! http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...s/icon_eek.gif too funny.
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    That was the most pathetic display of riding. Those poor people need real lessons, that guy almost fell off a time or two, they were both so insecure. They needed to learn to ride instead of playing ring around the Rosey with a carrot stick and rope. Seriously PP is a joke! The whole thing was pathetic to watch. Rrrr.
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    I agree, San. Except I end up laughing a whole lot when I watch. Actually, I watch about ten minutes of it, because the rest of it is either an advertisement for their schpiel or a major wanking off on how great they are. those poor suckers! You can tell they went out and got horses knowing nothing and are overmounted.



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    Well, I haven't watched and never will. I have no use for him.

    I've seen people with the mecate tucked into their belts in case of a voluntary dismount. I find that fascinating. The way that I train, I have great confidence that my horse will stay with me in the unlikely event that I come off. Interesting, isn't it that the NH trained horses are the ones that get the hell out of dodge when the rider comes off. http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/lol.gif Of course, it makes sense when the horse is rewarded by "release of pressure" from the trainer.

    Just an amusing observation. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c.../icon_wink.gif
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What makes me laugh is the anti-parelli people who bitch and moan about parelli but then keep on going back to RFDTV to watch a little more. Then they show up back on the forum and bitch and moan a little more. I have a grand plan! You don't like? Don't watch. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    LOL But its sooooo pathetically funny we are drawn to the train wrecks! LOL http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...on_biggrin.gif
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I agree, San. Except I end up laughing a whole lot when I watch. Actually, I watch about ten minutes of it, because the rest of it is either an advertisement for their schpiel or a major wanking off on how great they are. those poor suckers! You can tell they went out and got horses knowing nothing and are overmounted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Yup true about the major wanking off, the ads for their 2006 tour, OMG him riding one and one running next to him.
    Them playing their tag thing with the horse, that black stallion of Pats always looks like he wants to bite the crap right out of Pat! And a little slo-mo bit of Linda jumping something, sans tack and helmet.. She looked a little fetal! http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/yes.gif
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    The one thing that looked dangerous to me in this episode was at the beginning when the woman was "playing" with her horse on the lunge line with about 3' of it at her feet on the ground. http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...s/icon_eek.gif Seems soooooo easy for something to happen and getting her feet caught up in the rope!

    I agree with whoever said they needed a real lesson . . . there was really no direction or explanantion of why they were doing what they were doing until AFTER they had attempted to do it. That would have driven me crazy!!



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    I'll admit it, I am guilty of using some of PNH-type principles with my young mare http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...on_biggrin.gif

    I know that many people don't like either Parelli or NH in general. I've seen Parelli at one of his presentations along with Linda and the O'Connors. During the break, the arena was filled with Parelli students doing what I've come to think of as "Parelli Party Tricks".

    Unfortunately, I think what gets most of the publicity is the party tricks. And the party tricks don't really show off what Parelli and the others are trying to get across with NH-style training. (And, yeah, I'd even think alot of the time, at least in the public view, that Parelli also does party tricks.)

    What I do know is that my young mare (who didn't have alot of time under saddle before I starting working with my current trainer(s)) was reasonably suspicious and didn't have alot of trust (she wasn't naughty, just not necessarily trusting). Now, she is much more trusting, and not all just because of PNH work but certainly based on that. She is now eager to see me (despite my shortcomings http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...icon_smile.gif) She tries hard to please because she knows she'll be rewarded for her effort. She doesn't worry when she doesn't get something because she knows she won't in trouble for things she doesn't understand what she did wrong. She gives nicely to the bit (and yup, I ride in one of those nasty Parelli bridles with the slobber straps and long line, tied to the horn of the saddle, not to me).

    Don't sell the techniques short based on what you see on TV or a fancy presentation. There are good trainers out there who don't teach the party tricks (and yes, my trainer always wears a helmet http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...on_biggrin.gif)). Maybe that's where the party tricks come from... too many falls without a helmet??? http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/lol.gif
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Where'sMyWhite:
    During the break, the arena was filled with Parelli students doing what I've come to think of as "Parelli Party Tricks". </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Oh, that's a perfect way to describe it, LOL. I've seen many of the Guru Trainers use the same type of "party tricks" in their ads/breaks/marketing; it not just Parelli. Marketing technique is all it is . . .



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    kewpalace, what I think is too bad is that the party tricks really detract from what they are really trying to accomplish.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Two Simple:
    Actually, your observation is quite a ways off base. A long mecate rope is used to tie a horse to a tree on a trail ride while the rider lies on the grass, gets some lunch, etc. So while riding, the rope has to go SOMEWHERE. Most people loop it around the saddle horn. Others loop it to their belt because they either don't have a horn, or they don't want to scratch the leather on the horn. Still other people will tie the end of the rope to the saddle strings at the front of the saddle. Everyone does things a different way and it has NOTHING to do with hanging onto the horse so it doesn't run off after you get bucked off! It is crazy to even think about such a thing. Would YOU want to be tied to a run away horse via a rope around your waist??? I don't think so!! That is NOT the purpose of a mecate rope. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    That's what I was told by a horse owner who rode with one on her green horse as she was instructed by her Parelli instructor. Another poster above noted the same. I was not making this up.
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    TwoSimple,

    Here is my take: I HAVE to "keep going back" for I LIVE in the neighborhood. In fact, I lived here before they did! I have called & called to no avail, always to be told no-one in authority is available. No Pat, no Neil, no Farm Mgr. Thank TS for your bitchy comments about people that keep watching their public relations infomercials-of which I am not one for I have not owned a TV in over 25 years. I think the best plan now is to notify the Sheriff Dept. there is a SERIOUS fast driving issue on that road, specifically regarding Parelli people. TS, I cannot thank you enough for giving me the resolve to end this literal nightmare-before they literally hurt/KILL a horse & rider. http://chronicleforums.com/images/cu...milies/yes.gif http://chronicleforums.com/groupee_c...s/icon_mad.gif



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