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  1. #1
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    Default Please help...My dog just got diagnosed with her 6th bladder infection at 3yrs old!

    Any suggestions????? She's already on cranberry pills 2x a day. We can't seem to find any reason why. Should I switch her food? But, to what?? She's on Wellness currently.

    I desperately need help. She cant keep going through this.
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    What tests have been done so far? Has she had a urine culture and sensitivity each time she's had an infection? If so, is she getting the same bacteria or a different one each time? Have you done cultures a few days after finishing each course of antibiotics to be sure she's truely gotten rid of the infection? Has she had x-rays to look for stones or an abdominal ultrasound? If you've done all this and haven't found a cause talk to your vet about having her evaluated by an internal medicine specialist near you. (Your vet may send you there for the imaging tests also).

    Sometimes female dogs have poor vulvar conformation "hooded vulva" that lets bacteria travel up and causes repeated infections.

    If x-rays, ultrasound and her vulvar conformation are normal she should be seen by an internist for sure at that point if she's still getting repeated infections. Steps they may recommend after that are contrast studies, cystoscopy (camera looking up into the bladder) or other tests.

    Be aware that in some dogs even after all this a fixable problem still can't be found and they end up on/off antibiotics forever. Some of these guys benefit from low dose or pulse therapy with antibiotics to try and prevent infections. You do need to be careful with this as it risks creating resistant infections.



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    Check to see if she is diabetic. Hiigh sugar in the urine promotes bacterial infections. Turned out to be the problem with our cat. Sorry she's going through this (and you too!).
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    Great advice above!

    I was going to ask if she had an inverted vulva, but I'm sure at this point your vet has probably done a physical examination.

    Does she spend a lot of time in a plastic-bottomed crate? I've heard plenty of wives' tails of the plastic bottom holding bacteria and causing repeat UTI's.

    Ditto on the internal medicine consult, and jingles for your baby!



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    Ohh, we'e done all of what's been mentioned! Seen an internist (even a plastic surgeon regarding the vulva), she's had an ultrasound, cultures, etc. Our next step is the camera into the bladder.

    Are there any foods to put her on besides the prescription diets?

    She does stay in a plastic bottomed crate during the day when we are not home...
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    Since its a free fix, might not hurt to pull out the crate bottom and replace it/bleach the snot out of it or cover it with a tight liner.

    I know c/d is the go-to food here for urinary health but i'm sure there's some food experts here who could break down the benefits of content in c/d and recommend some comparable food.



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    The crate is getting bleached first thing tomorrow!!! Along with her blankets that go in the crate.

    My vet recommended the prescription food, but warned me that it's costly. Trying to figure out what's in it that's sooo "special".
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    Probably not real helpful but I will share anyway. I have two barn cat transplants that are now inside/outside at will housecats. I spent my limit on treating recurrent bladder infections that left one of them peeing blood every few minutes in the sink. She had xrays and cultures and food change etc and it still came back within days of stopping abx. As a last resort I googled to see if you could give a cat gentocin as I had a bottle. Turns out you can so I gave it a try before euthanizing as I already had it in hand. I gave 1cc im for 10 days which was probably overkill but since the alternative was death I wanted to make sure it was long enough. It has been more than six months and she is doing great! Even back on the cheap food. Best of luck to you both.



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    Do you by any chance walk her near geese and/or ducks? The owners of female dogs living near a park with a pond and TONS of Canada geese in my town were noticed a noticeably high % of their girls getting BI's. We all speculated that it might have something to do with all the goose poop on the grass and the fact that many females squat low to urinate.



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    Does she lick "down there?" What did the surgeon say about an episioplasty? Do brazilians help?

    What did the internist say?



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    I might give a limited ingredient/novel protein diet a try. Sure can't hurt, and might help?

    I wonder, too, if Cosequin would be useful. It is helpful in cystitis for kitties sometimes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lovey1121 View Post
    Do you by any chance walk her near geese and/or ducks? The owners of female dogs living near a park with a pond and TONS of Canada geese in my town were noticed a noticeably high % of their girls getting BI's. We all speculated that it might have something to do with all the goose poop on the grass and the fact that many females squat low to urinate.
    We have geese on LI, but none near me or places she goes.

    Squish-She does lick down there, but more when she has an infection. Surgeon said that her "girl parts" look ideal. More over weight dogs need fixing because of extra skin.

    She is an Airedale Terrier and very hairy down there, maybe she needs a brazilian...
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    Have you checked for crystals in the urine? Yes, prescription diet is very expensive, but you might want to give it a shot for while to see if it helps, several months at least, then wean off to a limited ingredient diet.

    I know I sound like a broken record, but we went through the same thing with my cocker...we left no stone unturned, all the way to a cystoscopy. Nothing. She was finally diagnosed with Lyme and, after a long treatment, the infections completely stopped and never returned. Whether the Lyme had anything to do with the UTI's I don't know. It may have just lowered her immune response enough to make her more susceptible.
    "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanuel Kant



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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraKY View Post
    Have you checked for crystals in the urine? Yes, prescription diet is very expensive, but you might want to give it a shot for while to see if it helps, several months at least, then wean off to a limited ingredient diet.

    I know I sound like a broken record, but we went through the same thing with my cocker...we left no stone unturned, all the way to a cystoscopy. Nothing. She was finally diagnosed with Lyme and, after a long treatment, the infections completely stopped and never returned. Whether the Lyme had anything to do with the UTI's I don't know. It may have just lowered her immune response enough to make her more susceptible.
    There were some crystals in the urine from Wednesday's test results. I'm going to speak with the vet on Tuesday to set up a cystoscopy and go from there. Maybe I should just suck it up and go to the prescription diet...
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    My male dog gets UTI's on occasion. Vet told us to lower his protein. he can't have over 21% and minerals should be sort of low. He gets a cranberry tablet every afternoon in his meal. lots of water and lots of access to get outside. Feed the dogs food wet, add water if it is dry.



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    You know, OP, I'd be giving the prescription diet a shot. It's probably less expensive than escalating testing and and continuing with antibiotics.

    I also give the dogs a good probiotic for a while after a round of antibiotics.

    Both my dogs years ago ended up on prescription diets...urinary diet and sensitive stomach diet. The food ended up way less expensive than the continual vet appointments, tests and medications.

    We did successfully wean them both off to limited ingredient diets later.
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    Yep,you will find people here that think prescription diet is made by the devil - but, if it gives you results then enough said.

    I like to feed my guys high quality diets, but sometimes the prescription diets to help with certain issues.

    It cant hurt to give a little clip down there. Cystoscopy would be more than an ideal next step. Gosh, animals can be irritating!!



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    Urinary SO by Royal Canine is a great food for dogs with bladder issues. It is by prescription, but it certainly is no more expensive then some of the premium dog foods out there. Not having any more bladder issues and having a happy dog more than makes up for any inconvenience with prescription dog food.



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    I fed raw food to my dog for quite a while before switching to a special bladder diet. After 3 surgeries for stone removals and countless urinary infections my dog has had clear urine results for the past 6 months now on CD and Urinary SO. I have learned my lesson and never take him off it.



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    My mother-in-law has a cat who was always getting UTI and/or bladder infections. She was, and still is, on the C/D prescription diet. Each infection was treated appropriately and cleared up, but she'd get another in a few months.

    Our vet suggested starting her on Cosequin. She said sometimes there was just some underlying inflammation causing the trouble. The cat has been on kitty Cosequin every other day for two years now and no more serious problems. She does still urinate in inappropriate places, but we have chalked that up to the other cat being a toilet bully.
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