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  1. #1
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    Default Class entry directions needed. Plus Hunter Derby help.

    I would like to show my mare in the Hopeful Hunter Division (2'-2'3) as well as the Low Hunter Division (2'6). The rules state:
    Hopeful Hunter - Open to all horses & ponies which have not jumped over 2’6
    Low Hunter - Open to all horses and ponies which have not jumped over 2’9

    Maybe I'm reading into this too hard . Is there an issue with me doing both divisions? This is not a rated show.

    Also, I need help with the Hunter Derby classes.
    Here are the definitions:
    Round 1: To be shown over natural hunter course of
    8 jumps at 2’6,” with 2 optional fences at 2’9.” An in & out, a bending line, and minimum of 1 unrelated distance included.

    Round 2: Hunter course 2’6,”with 2 optional fences at 2’9.” Will include minimum of 2 of the following: Trot jump, lead over jump, tight turn option, optional approaches;
    halt and/or back, walk a jump.

    This will be my first Hunter Derby. Am I doing all 8 jumps and choosing 2 optional or can someone better explain what my best route is.

    Thanks in advance for all the help



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    It sounds like you should be able to do both divisions.

    The option jumps are usually set up next to each other, and you can decide whether to jump the high side or the low side. At a recognized show in a USHJA derby, you get automatic extra points for each jump where you do the high side. At an unrecognized show, it might be different.

    Good luck and have fun!



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    MHM thanks for the help! So I would do all 8 jumps and then choose 2 from the optional?



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    Nope, it appears there are 8 jumps total. Let's say jump 4 and jump 6 both have 'options' you can jump either the 2'6 side of the jump or the 2'9 side, so it would be 8 total jumps, you just get to pick if 4 and 6 are 2'6 or 2'9 (or you do one at 2'6 and one at 2'9). Hope that helped.



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    Oh.. That makes sense. And within these 8 jumps I will have an in & out, a bending line, and minimum of 1 unrelated distance included in Round 1.

    And a trot jump, lead over jump, tight turn option, optional approaches;
    halt and/or back, walk a jump in Round 2.



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    Are you planning on riding a different horse in the Derby?



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    Your derby with the 2'9" options might present a cross-entry problem with the hopeful hunters.
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    It will be the same horse. I was wondering about the cross entry too. The low hunter class is the last over fences class for the show before the Derby.



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    Direction still needed. Anyone??



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    I would call the horse show management and ask them about whether you can cross enter.

    Most show restrictions regarding a horse's eligibility include a time frame, such as, "have not jumped higher than 2'6" as of December 1st of the current show year."

    Lacking that stated time frame, I would read the specs you quoted to mean "have not jumped higher than 2'6" until today," which means you could do the 2'6" and 2'9" today, but then not be eligible for the 2'6" class at the next show.

    But that's just my opinion, which is why you should call the show to find out their opinion.



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    Just call the show secretary and ask.



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